How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[jim tolmies perm]

Fucking shameless cunts , £350m for the NHS
Lying bastards all
Never forget this, the most egregious falsehood in British political history

 

[bluethrunthru]

from the Govt who brought you "we halved crime by not including the largest source source of crime in the crime figures " and went on to "we halved inflation with our plan to oh it went up again thats because of Covid and Ukraine old boy and nothing to do with the increase in alcohol duties the months before " a new blockbuster - " Food will be cheaper after Brexit and we will achieve that by actions that will reduce the volume of imports of food into the UK" - they are now just cementing in place their destruction at a GE

 

[BrianW]

It should be obvious to the meanest intelligence that 'actions that will reduce the volume of imports of food into the UK' can only increase food prices, not reduce them.

It's not as if we've a prairie or two lying unused because of our former EU membership.

 

[Blue and true]

from the Govt who brought you "we halved crime by not including the largest source source of crime in the crime figures " and went on to "we halved inflation with our plan to oh it went up again thats because of Covid and Ukraine old boy and nothing to do with the increase in alcohol duties the months before " a new blockbuster - " Food will be cheaper after Brexit and we will achieve that by actions that will reduce the volume of imports of food into the UK" - they are now just cementing in place their destruction at a GE

But sovereignty, innit!

 

[bluethrunthru]

But sovereignty, innit!

and they didn't even get that

 

[Bodicoteblue]

and they didn't even get that

It’s a strange and alarming notion, but I feel as though this government is actually hostile to its own citizens.

 

[bluethrunthru]

It’s a strange and alarming notion, but I feel as though this government is actually hostile to its own citizens.

remind anyone who tells you we got sovereignty that we did not. In order to sell into any market you have to agree to meet their standards and requirements - these can be done by means of negotiation and a trade deal but in doing so you surrender sovereignty - you only retain that if you dictate terms and your terms are accepted without debate. That never happens. Sovereignty is a word that encapsulates the phrase "they need us more than we need them " and thats the lie the likes of Johnson and Farage sold their acolytes

 

[BTH]

One of the central planks of Brexit was "taking back control," particularly from the unelected EU bureaucrats, yet the Brexiteers don't seem to have an issue with unelected British prime ministers!

 

[Vic]

It should be obvious to the meanest intelligence that 'actions that will reduce the volume of imports of food into the UK' can only increase food prices, not reduce them.

It's not as if we've a prairie or two lying unused because of our former EU membership.

No, that's not obvious, if UK food became cheaper. Subsidising British farming would reduce imports - instead Brexit has increased costs, not least the loss of EU citizens willing to get up every morning at 5 am to pick and pack food (and loss of EU vets making UK pig farming uneconomical etc etc). If they can't guarantee crops will get picked, they won't get planted.

Brexit causing the pound to slump against the Euro should have made imports more expensive (though of course the pound falling was part of Project Fear).

Replacing the CAP subsidies with targeting subsidies might have worked. But instead of an established system, flawed but predictable, farmers face systems that aren't yet fully worked out and (in the guise of environmental benefits) reward farmers for not growing food.

 

[Vic]

Taking control.

200% tariffs on British cheese to Canada (zero for EU cheese).