Didsbury Dave
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I suspect not the Mail, Express or Sun either.
How do we resolve the Brexit mess?
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Yeah, still a bit too early for some motherfuckers.
bluethrunthru
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www.theguardian.com
Trade from UK to EU 16% lower than if Brexit had not happened, report finds
Economic and Social Research Institute analysis found ‘substantial reduction in number of products traded’
www.theguardian.com
Gabriel
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Depressing. Because inflation is bumping prices up, people are using ‘value’ to mask the reality of what has happened. Presumably, this just means the pain lasts longer than need ever have been the case.growth growth growth
Trade from UK to EU 16% lower than if Brexit had not happened, report finds
Economic and Social Research Institute analysis found ‘substantial reduction in number of products traded’
Fred_Quimby
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More and more people are beginning to say about it trashing our country, Today programme this morning yet again had people on.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Could the implosion of the Conservative party be classed as a Brexit bonus?
Was mentioned a fair bit on that politics show.
They had an economist mentioning it (Japanese economist), although did point out further economic issues.
Tory guy was rather less than complimentary about 'Full Brexit' than the Labour politician (didn't catch their names).
They had an economist mentioning it (Japanese economist), although did point out further economic issues.
Tory guy was rather less than complimentary about 'Full Brexit' than the Labour politician (didn't catch their names).
Grassland Blue
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Hard Brexit was an incredibly stupid thing to have voted for.
Why, when so many countries wanted to belong to the EU, did we think it the best course of action to leave?
Why did the media not show a model of what life would probably be like outside the EU, as a third country?
Were the mainstream media negligent in not reporting that properly?
Cameron was of course to blame for the issue being raised first of all, when it certainly wasn't front and centre of anyone's thoughts.
We are where we are...
Why, when so many countries wanted to belong to the EU, did we think it the best course of action to leave?
Why did the media not show a model of what life would probably be like outside the EU, as a third country?
Were the mainstream media negligent in not reporting that properly?
Cameron was of course to blame for the issue being raised first of all, when it certainly wasn't front and centre of anyone's thoughts.
We are where we are...
But where are we?
Half of the mainstream media is owned by billionaires whose primary residence is abroad, usually in tax free states like Monaco. Being out of the EU personally benefited them. That's why they didn't highlight the truth.
Grassland Blue
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In a total shambles with no 'leader' worthy of the name, with the knowledge or courage to extricate us from it.
(Mick Lynch might be a shout though).
Gabriel
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'Those Europeans with their tinpot democracies and revolving-door governments; better off out of it...'
HelloCity
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Caught the first couple of mins:
This bloody govt soap opera has made me miss my boxset evening viewing but I'm about to watch the rather sensible (in comparison to what's going on in the real world) Twin Peaks.
I'll catch this in full over the next day or two.
When will stuff like this be played on mainstream TV (Panorama and it's ilk).
gordondaviesmoustache
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I remember a poster on here frequently used to defend FPTP because of the instability that PR brought to counties like Italy!
journolud
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Must be bad. Didn’t Italy used to be a country?
AlgarveBlu
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I saw on CNN yesterday that the Italian ambassador to the UK wasn't happy about the stereotyping of Italy in the latest cover of the economist although I'm not sure if it was the comparison of the UK to Italy he found offensive
Saddleworth2
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And yet the 2 main parties still will not engage in this discussion. You can understand why the Tory party doesn't to an extent albeit the Tory Governments position was 'Remain' but Labour? I watched the video half way through and then stopped as I just found it so depressing. 50 years from now at least it will give kids in history classes a good laugh about how utterly moronic a good proportion of their forebears were.
- swallowed a bunch of lies hook line and sinker
- believed the right wing press and chancers like Johnson and Farage
- ignored every 'expert' analysis
- refused to apply even a modicum of personal critical analysis
- skimmed over massive hurdles like GFA
- many still double down over their role in this evolving tragedy
gordondaviesmoustache
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I think the only palpable positive that can possibly emerge is a more humble and reflective national psyche and disposition, but it will take a long time, require a great deal more pain and certainly isn’t guaranteed.
M18CTID
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Mick Lynch has been fantastic at getting the RMT's point across recently (and winning the hearts and minds of many who were previously opposed to the rail strikes) and we've all enjoyed watching him routinely demolishing politicians and journalists alike. However, Mick is also a Brexiter and as far as I know he hasn't changed his stance even in the face of ever-increasing evidence that Brexit is a shit show (Mick - if I can wake up to it being a shit show, surely you can FFS!), so while he would be terrific on certain matters and could teach our politicians a thing or three, he's probably far from the ideal person to sort out the Brexit shambles.