How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

BlueHammer85 said:
If the vast majority now believe it’s the wrong decision - why not look to rejoin ? All because we can’t be arsed with the hoo rah of it all ? It’s better than continuing down this path
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I posted this 6 months ago and was told no chance by a fair few

the wheels are definitely starting to turn
 
El_george said:
The most recent speaker echos my view: it is a generational thing. We can't expect to see benefit after a few months or a few years but in 20 or 30 years time we will probably accept it was the right thing to do.
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Yeah, let's just throw 30 years of prosperity on a "probably". No biggie if it doesn't work out. It doesn't matter that you don't even have any evidence or reasoning whatsoever to base your "probably" on. Let's just do it for shits and giggles eh. At least our children might still be around to "probably" reap the benefit or otherwise to turn it around before they themselves die.
 
carlosthejackal said:
Staggering
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It’s certainly quite a stagger from the sunlit uplands, the world beating trade deals, the wonderful sovereignty and all the other joys and benefits that were dangled before us.
Listening to phone-ins on radio this morning and there is still this idea that brexit was a great idea but it simply isn’t being implemented properly.
There are still some people who think that there was another brexit on offer, the one writ large on the side of the bus - the proverbial land of milk and honey that was the prize we deserved, the one that was desired but sadly never existed - except in the form of lies and misguided belief.
The bait was put on the hook and they bit in droves.
 
KPXBLN said:
Unfortunately- and understandably, at this point- the EU would be reluctant to let the UK back in.
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At this point I agree, but once we get to supermajority territory then of course they’ll have us back. What better endorsement for the EU than a contrite and repentant sheep that left the flock but now sees the error of their ways. A lesson to other future recalcitrant nations about the folly of going it alone. Also being magnanimous is such a good look.

66% will be the tipping point but the short-term problem is that I’m not sure we’re north of 55% yet.
 
somapop said:
Glen Matlock having a mini rant over John Lydon's Brexit vote (and subsequent Irish passport move) on BBC this morning....
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John Lydon has had an Irish passport since the 1990s. He does like to stir the pot and spin a story though.

Would be different if he had applied for it afterwards, I hold these selfish people in absolute contempt. They don't suffer the consequences of their idiotic vote but the rest of us do. So fuck them.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I posted this 6 months ago and was told no chance by a fair few

the wheels are definitely starting to turn
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Pollster John Curtice reckons the current 58% for rejoining comprises of those who voted Leave, it's two thirds people who've changed their mind * and a third have died and been replaced by sensible people (not quite how he put it). * Not two thirds of Leavers; most are still committed to the idiocy.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
At this point I agree, but once we get to supermajority territory then of course they’ll have us back. What better endorsement for the EU than a contrite and repentant sheep that left the flock but now sees the error of their ways. A lesson to other future recalcitrant nations about the folly of going it alone. Also being magnanimous is such a good look.

66% will be the tipping point but the short-term problem is that I’m not sure we’re north of 55% yet.
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We will be. We've got to 58/60% without most of the media even addressing it. The BBC seems to have got its bottle back about it (radio 4 debate 8pm tonight from Media City) so now that it's being openly discussed, that figure is only going one way.

And 1% more each year just from Leave voters dying off! (see above)

Assuming the Tories stagger on, next year even Starmer might be thinking that "making Brexit work" is just a stupid stance - though I'm not sure what the stance should be. "Getting rid of Brexit problems"? "Walking back to happiness"?
 
Vic said:
We will be. We've got to 58/60% without most of the media even addressing it. The BBC seems to have got its bottle back about it (radio 4 debate 8pm tonight from Media City) so now that it's being openly discussed, that figure is only going one way.

And 1% more each year just from Leave voters dying off! (see above)

Assuming the Tories stagger on, next year even Starmer might be thinking that "making Brexit work" is just a stupid stance - though I'm not sure what the stance should be. "Getting rid of Brexit problems"? "Walking back to happiness"?
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"Crawling back to parity"
 


so here we have the most pro Brexit person possible detailing the benefits for the rest of us that can’t remember them all.

I know The VAT one is a lie for starters. Not sure about the rest
 
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