How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Gabriel said:
It’s not falling apart though, is it?

Brexit was always going to have repercussions for everyone, especially as the U.K. was one of the Union’s larger economies. That is not the point, however. The point is whether it will be more damaging for the U.K. or for the EU, and on the evidence so far, it is and will be worse for the former. Much. If you care to read the international press, American. Chinese, Indian, Australian, they all acknowledge this point, which is one reason why investors are currently reluctant to invest in the U.K.
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As you said, so far.

Maybe we're forgetting that Brexit is relatively recent. A lot of things will change (for good or bad) in Europe in the next 4/5 years.

Only time will say if Brexit was a good idea or wasn't.

In my opinion, it was a good idea. In your opinion, and in 95% people's opinion, it was a bad idea.

I said this before, I'm not going to try to change your mind. I'm just telling my point of view.

P. S. Thanks for the idea of reading Australian press, I wouldn't have ever think about it!
 
Ah, good to see the paranoia from Lord Frost over brexit being stolen away from the U.K. as there is a summit as to how the country can make brexit work better, and how we can have a better relationship with Europe.

How is the country supposed to make any progress and figure out this mess we are in, when the idiots who negotiated this shit show and crashed the country into an iceberg are still talking about brexit being stolen from them?
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Ah, good to see the paranoia from Lord Frost over brexit being stolen away from the U.K. as there is a summit as to how the country can make brexit work better, and how we can have a better relationship with Europe.

How is the country supposed to make any progress and figure out this mess we are in, when the idiots who negotiated this shit show and crashed the country into an iceberg are still talking about brexit being stolen from them?
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But but... he and the Great Liar got Brexit done.

Didn't they?
 
Oven ready but it's an Alba microwave.

And it's not a microwave but a B&W portable telly with the CRT taken out and replaced with a pair of socks.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Ah, good to see the paranoia from Lord Frost over brexit being stolen away from the U.K. as there is a summit as to how the country can make brexit work better, and how we can have a better relationship with Europe.

How is the country supposed to make any progress and figure out this mess we are in, when the idiots who negotiated this shit show and crashed the country into an iceberg are still talking about brexit being stolen from them?
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It's always being "snatched away" or "stolen" or "plotted against" isn't it? Their defensiveness is off the scale becuase they know deep down how wrong they were/

I've said it many times before: every public proponent of Brexit was/is a moron. Different colours, shades and textures of moron but morons all. I have yet to come across one who could be described in any way as sensible and that applied even at referendum time. All you had to do was look at the people on each side of the debate and you didn't need to delve any further.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Ah, good to see the paranoia from Lord Frost over brexit being stolen away from the U.K. as there is a summit as to how the country can make brexit work better, and how we can have a better relationship with Europe.

How is the country supposed to make any progress and figure out this mess we are in, when the idiots who negotiated this shit show and crashed the country into an iceberg are still talking about brexit being stolen from them?
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What you’ve not realised is that Brexit is all about crashing the economy and dividing the nation. Anything that anyone wants to do to get the economy going or to unite different factions within the population counts as stealing Brexit.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Ah, good to see the paranoia from Lord Frost over brexit being stolen away from the U.K. as there is a summit as to how the country can make brexit work better, and how we can have a better relationship with Europe.

How is the country supposed to make any progress and figure out this mess we are in, when the idiots who negotiated this shit show and crashed the country into an iceberg are still talking about brexit being stolen from them?
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I wish people would stop trying to attach rationality to brexit and its proponents.
It will drive you nuts.
 
Predictable for anyone who thought/ looked beyond 'immigration issues' , 'taking back control' and 'saving the NHS £200m' lies.
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit hit UK investment by £29bn, says Bank of England policymaker

Jonathan Haskel says leaving the EU has caused a "productivity penalty" of £1,000 per household.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

'...said a wave of investment "stopped in its tracks" in 2016'

£29b loss (and counting) - and we were going to "save" billions...
 
JASR said:
Predictable for anyone who thought/ looked beyond 'immigration issues' , 'taking back control' and 'saving the NHS £200m' lies.
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit hit UK investment by £29bn, says Bank of England policymaker

Jonathan Haskel says leaving the EU has caused a "productivity penalty" of £1,000 per household.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

'...said a wave of investment "stopped in its tracks" in 2016'

£29b loss (and counting) - and we were going to "save" billions...
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Yes, but we all know that the BoE is a Marxist, lefty, tree-hugging, yogurt-knitting, tofu munching, open border loving, shower of remoaners who are out to destroy the British way of life as we know it!
Liz and Sue-Ellen told me.
 
JASR said:
Predictable for anyone who thought/ looked beyond 'immigration issues' , 'taking back control' and 'saving the NHS £200m' lies.
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit hit UK investment by £29bn, says Bank of England policymaker

Jonathan Haskel says leaving the EU has caused a "productivity penalty" of £1,000 per household.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

'...said a wave of investment "stopped in its tracks" in 2016'

£29b loss (and counting) - and we were going to "save" billions...
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It's not that the investment just stopped in its tracks, it's that they had an engine at the other end and it headed off elsewhere.
 
JASR said:
Predictable for anyone who thought/ looked beyond 'immigration issues' , 'taking back control' and 'saving the NHS £200m' lies.
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit hit UK investment by £29bn, says Bank of England policymaker

Jonathan Haskel says leaving the EU has caused a "productivity penalty" of £1,000 per household.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

'...said a wave of investment "stopped in its tracks" in 2016'

£29b loss (and counting) - and we were going to "save" billions...
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One of the big problems that we still have is that the ordinary people who stand by Brexit have no concept whosoever of how much impact that a 4% loss of gdp or a £29b loss of trade has on us all. You might as well say “potato” or “wardrobe” to them. They wouldn’t even know, and nobody is really saying, that it’s the difference between the thatcher or Blair boom years and the 1970s.
 
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