How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
How long did the veto last? I heard that voting was gonna be a majority vote. Has that come to pass yet or without the veto are countries just resorting to two fingering Brussels with stuff they don't like.
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Chris in London said:
the veto was indefinite

Unless we agreed to abolish it
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Just a reminder of the vetos that the UK held ..... but you already know this because you did the research before you voted Leave didn't you ?IMG_2367.PNG
 
El_george said:
But as I keep saying, Brexit hasn't been done. As you say yourself, Sunkak is now fighting to achieve something that Johnson had said had been completed, because Johnson was a charlatan under the thumb of his green pretty wife.
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Sunak is trying to resolve the NI Protocol without destroying the Good Friday Peace agreement. How will this make anything better for those on the mainland? What you are seeing now with empty shelves and food shortages , the lack of staff in social care , leisure and nursing wont alter because we abolish part of the border in the Irish sea.


What you are seeing now is the Brexit you voted for.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Just a reminder of the vetos that the UK held ..... but you already know this because you did the research before you voted Leave didn't you ?View attachment 70452
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Who me? What gives you the impression I voted Leave?

And a veto is only a veto if you choose to exercise it! And I would not trust a UK government of any persuasion to choose not to exercise a veto if it suited. They would come up with an argument for a point a view which twelve months ago was diametrically opposed to the one they first espoused!
 
Vic said:
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Disregard for UK growers had led to shortages, says horticulture group​

The Lea Valley Growers Association said that many tomato growers were forced to delay planting until February due to ‘low prices offered, high energy costs and the lack of skilled labour’.
“Many growers have stopped growing vine tomatoes due to the labour involved and the diminishing returns,”...​


The takeaway from that is that in the event of any shortage of food grown by EU growers, they're going to export to the easiest countries to export to, and that's no longer the UK.
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For what it’s worth Irish growers haven’t been able to fill the gap caused by the weather aspect in Spain and North Africa either.
A lot of the massive poly tunnel farms in North Dublin didn’t plant to capacity because of the rise in energy costs.
They expect to be able to supply the demand for tomatoes and cucumbers in the coming months however.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
I don't think we were on a winner either way round. Being in the EU was never gonna win us anything. And the EU were never gonna let us benefit by a fuckin' drachma once we were out, and making sure we were paying an overly-fair share by staying in!
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Sounds like your damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

Maybe your just ….. damned.
 
Maybe we are damned but either way the EU has to much power over the UK and any other country still within the Union. Hopefully we will have a solution to the Boris brexit agreement on NI today. I Can’t wait !
 
Now listen all you naysayers, all you ‘remoaners’, all you purveyors of ‘project fear’, you deniers of democracy, we are being given a wonderful second chance to put our mistakes right.
All we have to do is not believe in defeffel’s appalling lies about oven-ready stuff anymore, and now we must believe in the new version of all the things we should have believed before until the new stuff showed us that the old stuff was in fact lies.
Are you still with me?
This time a bit more belief and faith, and a bit less cynicism please, if you really want to see those unicorns.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
A settled agreement that works in NI, is compliant with the GFI and is supported by the majority reduces the risk of conflict. That has to be good for all of us.
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It will, but if such an agreement is made it will be a far better brexit than the rest of us in the UK have. Not sure how one part of the UK having a different and better brexit than the rest is right or fair.
 
blueparrot said:
It will, but if such an agreement is made it will be a far better brexit than the rest of us in the UK have. Not sure how one part of the UK having a different and better brexit than the rest is right or fair.
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Special circumstances. One of the key reasons why Brexit should not even have been offered up as an option to an unthinking and uncaring populace.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Special circumstances. One of the key reasons why Brexit should not even have been offered up as an option to an unthinking and uncaring populace.
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What is clear is that the loonies just can't accept the NI issue, its beyond the ability of their small minds.

BJ put a gun to their heads and told them to vote for his deal. It was that or risk the whole thing imploding in failure. This goes back to that original issue where the loonies can't face the reality even when this deal is no different to the BJ deal they previously voted for.

It will be fascinating to see how this goes through. BJ had some hold over the ERG types as he had the backing of the press and the tory voters. They could not take him on. They could take on Sunak but to what end, the tories are in a deep shambolic hole. The party won't improve its position if they split on this now. So what do the loonies do. How much fight do they have. Will Sunak go for a vote or fudge it through. Its crunch day.
 
So King Prince Charles has joined in, but has blamed it on the government.

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