How do you engage in politics, healthily?

The more you know these days the more depressing it is. Talking about it to folk who are happy to analyse and discuss facts is therapeutic and helps you make sense of it. I get why people turn away from it but things will never get better if folk don't engage with it. I like the political forums on bluemoon in the main. If you stick as far as possible to facts then some of the discussions are enlightening. The flip side of that is it's the easiest way to spot the idiots by the manner and content of what they post.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
The more you know these days the more depressing it is. Talking about it to folk who are happy to analyse and discuss facts is therapeutic and helps you make sense of it. I get why people turn away from it but things will never get better if folk don't engage with it. I like the political forums on bluemoon in the main. If you stick as far as possible to facts then some of the discussions are enlightening. The flip side of that is it's the easiest way to spot the idiots by the manner and content of what they post.
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It's interesting when you find someone who will discuss politics in a calm adult manner and not act like a shouty bellend. You find that even the ones you dont agree with still offer something in terms of reasoned arguement or decent chat (even if they're wrong ;) )
 
Bigga said:
Let me give you an example of what politics is, these days:

In the last 4 weeks, 1 at the start of the month and 1, yesterday, I happened to speak to people on politics face to face. The first happened to catch my comments on the state of the country and she asked me about my views on BloJo. She responded that she 'liked him' because he was funny,, relatable and dropped in long words, so he's very well educated and knows what he's talking about.

I was, truly, astonished! Having asked what he's actually done, she cited Brexit and COVID! Weirdly, she agreed that the country was in a mess, but he needed time to put it right. She finished off by saying she couldn't have voted Corbyn because he was "slimy" and "pompous"! I said, so you'd rather vote a guy who's laughing and dragging the country down, for comedic value, rather than a guy who wanted the right things, but didn't quite 'fit the mould'.

Yes, she said. I walked away at that point.

Second, was yesterday about Obama. After watching a comedy special were the comedian wished Obama was still running the country, I scoffed and my friend asked why I did that as she thought Obama did an amazing job. I asked what he did that was of any benefit and she couldn't name anything, but that he was 'cool' as a pres. I dropped knowledge on her about his Pres and she was still in his corner.

Her BJ for me at the end of the night, almost wasn't worth it, I tell ya...

*edit, my point being, not enough of the average voter seems to know enough about the politician outside what the media sells them.
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I'd say this portion wasn't worth sharing. But go on...
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Agreed. Our current electoral system is borderline corrupt, with the two main party's happy to maintain the status quo and just tweak electoral boundaries to their advantage while in office to further negate the chance of change. It's very hard to put an intelligent argument against pr
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Yep and the impact is we have vast swathes of the population without a voice for their opinion in parliament and the debate is reduced to binary options, that and we empower that feeling of “winners” and “losers” rather than thinking government and parliament should be there for everyone.
 
shemnel said:
It's interesting when you find someone who will discuss politics in a calm adult manner and not act like a shouty bellend. You find that even the ones you dont agree with still offer something in terms of reasoned arguement or decent chat (even if they're wrong ;) )
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I long for those. But I've come to realize they can't be found online. Anecdotally I find In person discussions to be so much better.
 
Try not to get dragged into replying to too many posts, make your point, expand if somebody replies . Know when to leave it and go off to what we are all here for, the music, sorry I mean the City threads.
 
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