How do you justify playing Zab over Elano?

[bluemanc]

After reading reviews of our team from the South American press I have to agree that "Elano is too good to be sitting on the bench".

The inclusion of De Jong and Zab in midfield means that we are now running a 2 DM set. Why? With Kompany now in CB, his spot can now be taken by one of the two...but to have both? It makes no sense as it takes away from our creativity. Is this overly defensive set up really needed or for that matter can you name another top team using 2 DMs?

Zab is like Kompany had been, playing out of his natural position which is right back. The fact that he can play in midfield, doesn't make him a midfielder. To add to the confusion, Elano is a STARTER for the great Brazil...yet not good enough for our team?

How bad can we be in this line up?:
--------Given------
Zab----Kompany----Richards/Ned----Bridge
-----------De Jong---------------
SWP---Elano---Ireland---Robinho
-----------Bellamy-----------

In my opinion, the above is a GREAT team. However whilst currently having Richards at right back may bode well defensively, Richards is yet to produce a cross. All season (from the right back position). Therefore it is better to have Zab at right back and allow him to join the attack like an extra winger - which he has done effectively this season.

Playing 2 DMs? Really? This makes no sense to me and gradually seems more of a vendetta against a player rather than good tactics, or for that matter, good judgement.

EDIT: Seriously, Can you name ANY TEAM which uses a 2 DM set?

It worked & just because we lost at stoke were the whole team was off the boil it is wrong to think it can't carry on working.
I like Elano but he has a hell of a fight on his hands to get back in the team.

 

[bluemoon05]

If anyone should make way for Elano it's SWP

 

[bluemoon05]

After reading reviews of our team from the South American press I have to agree that "Elano is too good to be sitting on the bench".

The inclusion of De Jong and Zab in midfield means that we are now running a 2 DM set. Why? With Kompany now in CB, his spot can now be taken by one of the two...but to have both? It makes no sense as it takes away from our creativity. Is this overly defensive set up really needed or for that matter can you name another top team using 2 DMs?

Zab is like Kompany had been, playing out of his natural position which is right back. The fact that he can play in midfield, doesn't make him a midfielder. To add to the confusion, Elano is a STARTER for the great Brazil...yet not good enough for our team?

How bad can we be in this line up?:
--------Given------
Zab----Kompany----Richards/Ned----Bridge
-----------De Jong---------------
SWP---Elano---Ireland---Robinho
-----------Bellamy-----------

In my opinion, the above is a GREAT team. However whilst currently having Richards at right back may bode well defensively, Richards is yet to produce a cross. All season (from the right back position). Therefore it is better to have Zab at right back and allow him to join the attack like an extra winger - which he has done effectively this season.

Playing 2 DMs? Really? This makes no sense to me and gradually seems more of a vendetta against a player rather than good tactics, or for that matter, good judgement.

EDIT: Seriously, Can you name ANY TEAM which uses a 2 DM set?

It worked & just because we lost at stoke were the whole team was off the boil it is wrong to think it can't carry on working.
I like Elano but he has a hell of a fight on his hands to get back in the team.

I wouldn't say a hell of a fight, I'd say one injury.

 

[bluealf]

After reading reviews of our team from the South American press I have to agree that "Elano is too good to be sitting on the bench".

The inclusion of De Jong and Zab in midfield means that we are now running a 2 DM set. Why? With Kompany now in CB, his spot can now be taken by one of the two...but to have both? It makes no sense as it takes away from our creativity. Is this overly defensive set up really needed or for that matter can you name another top team using 2 DMs?

Zab is like Kompany had been, playing out of his natural position which is right back. The fact that he can play in midfield, doesn't make him a midfielder. To add to the confusion, Elano is a STARTER for the great Brazil...yet not good enough for our team?

How bad can we be in this line up?:
--------Given------
Zab----Kompany----Richards/Ned----Bridge
-----------De Jong---------------
SWP---Elano---Ireland---Robinho
-----------Bellamy-----------

In my opinion, the above is a GREAT team. However whilst currently having Richards at right back may bode well defensively, Richards is yet to produce a cross. All season (from the right back position). Therefore it is better to have Zab at right back and allow him to join the attack like an extra winger - which he has done effectively this season.

Playing 2 DMs? Really? This makes no sense to me and gradually seems more of a vendetta against a player rather than good tactics, or for that matter, good judgement.

EDIT: Seriously, Can you name ANY TEAM which uses a 2 DM set?

look here for the answer mate, two games as a defensive midfielder and..........

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[bluemanc]

It worked & just because we lost at stoke were the whole team was off the boil it is wrong to think it can't carry on working.
I like Elano but he has a hell of a fight on his hands to get back in the team.

I wouldn't say a hell of a fight, I'd say one injury.

Fair comment,we will need him that's a fact.
He will get a chance i'm sure & i've a funny feeling he'll take it.

 

[maxflicity]

After reading reviews of our team from the South American press I have to agree that "Elano is too good to be sitting on the bench".

The inclusion of De Jong and Zab in midfield means that we are now running a 2 DM set. Why? With Kompany now in CB, his spot can now be taken by one of the two...but to have both? It makes no sense as it takes away from our creativity. Is this overly defensive set up really needed or for that matter can you name another top team using 2 DMs?

Zab is like Kompany had been, playing out of his natural position which is right back. The fact that he can play in midfield, doesn't make him a midfielder. To add to the confusion, Elano is a STARTER for the great Brazil...yet not good enough for our team?

How bad can we be in this line up?:
--------Given------
Zab----Kompany----Richards/Ned----Bridge
-----------De Jong---------------
SWP---Elano---Ireland---Robinho
-----------Bellamy-----------

In my opinion, the above is a GREAT team. However whilst currently having Richards at right back may bode well defensively, Richards is yet to produce a cross. All season (from the right back position). Therefore it is better to have Zab at right back and allow him to join the attack like an extra winger - which he has done effectively this season.

Playing 2 DMs? Really? This makes no sense to me and gradually seems more of a vendetta against a player rather than good tactics, or for that matter, good judgement.

EDIT: Seriously, Can you name ANY TEAM which uses a 2 DM set?

Have you ever watched any real football at all?

This is quite the most rediculous post I think I have ever seen.

Go back to the PS2 mate this is real life for people who know about football.

 

[rastus]

Solid, steel, backbone......and a 1-0 loss to stroke?
In fairness a new formation wont gel just like that, its a 10 year plan.
OOOHHHH I remember those cunts saying Elanos shit, get rid, wnker, cant pass, hes ok now though.

 

[skybluekings]

After reading reviews of our team from the South American press I have to agree that "Elano is too good to be sitting on the bench".

The inclusion of De Jong and Zab in midfield means that we are now running a 2 DM set. Why? With Kompany now in CB, his spot can now be taken by one of the two...but to have both? It makes no sense as it takes away from our creativity. Is this overly defensive set up really needed or for that matter can you name another top team using 2 DMs?

Zab is like Kompany had been, playing out of his natural position which is right back. The fact that he can play in midfield, doesn't make him a midfielder. To add to the confusion, Elano is a STARTER for the great Brazil...yet not good enough for our team?

How bad can we be in this line up?:
--------Given------
Zab----Kompany----Richards/Ned----Bridge
-----------De Jong---------------
SWP---Elano---Ireland---Robinho
-----------Bellamy-----------

In my opinion, the above is a GREAT team. However whilst currently having Richards at right back may bode well defensively, Richards is yet to produce a cross. All season (from the right back position). Therefore it is better to have Zab at right back and allow him to join the attack like an extra winger - which he has done effectively this season.

Playing 2 DMs? Really? This makes no sense to me and gradually seems more of a vendetta against a player rather than good tactics, or for that matter, good judgement.

EDIT: Seriously, Can you name ANY TEAM which uses a 2 DM set?

Have you ever watched any real football at all?

This is quite the most rediculous post I think I have ever seen.

Go back to the PS2 mate this is real life for people who know about football.

Ridiculous post? Its a statement for debate not ignorance. Your post only shows your intellectual limits in joining the conversation.
Mark Hughes? Is that you? LOL!

 

[bluealf]

But no reply from you about why he has pissed the player of the month award yet.

Or was that to much debate for your crap thread ?

 

[blue jim]

Lads, what part of squad do you not understand?

Elano is part of a squad, Zab is part of a squad. Zab is a better starter, his tackling is spot on, and Elano is a soft touch that loses the bap too often, they've different roles in the team. If we're going up against a team like Arsenal by all means start Elano but he gets battered by teams who fight their way to a draw, and has done since he joined us.