How does Mark Hughes keep getting work?.

[the blue panther]

Yesterday on Sky it was said Hughes made excellent signings. My recolection was Santa Roque who was a disaster Did he sign Bridge as well? What were his other excellent signings for us?

Glauba Berti - the man!

 

[Mugatu]

Yesterday on Sky it was said Hughes made excellent signings. My recolection was Santa Roque who was a disaster Did he sign Bridge as well? What were his other excellent signings for us?

Nigel De Jong - Good player, off the boil at the moment.
Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.
Robinho - Show pony, but it did raise the profile of the club and (arguably) paved the way for some of the current players.
Pablo Zabaleta - A very good player and still underrated.
Craig Bellamy - Did a sterling job for us at the time, not good enough now.
Gareth Barry - Good then, good now. Workhorse.
Wayne Bridge - Imploded.

So it's a mixed bag really.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Yesterday on Sky it was said Hughes made excellent signings. My recolection was Santa Roque who was a disaster Did he sign Bridge as well? What were his other excellent signings for us?

Nigel De Jong - Good player, off the boil at the moment.
Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.
Robinho - Show pony, but it did raise the profile of the club and (arguably) paved the way for some of the current players.
Pablo Zabaleta - A very good player and still underrated.
Craig Bellamy - Did a sterling job for us at the time, not good enough now.
Gareth Barry - Good then, good now. Workhorse.
Wayne Bridge - Imploded.

So it's a mixed bag really.

Vincent Kompany.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.

Isn't and was never 'one of the best around'. A short term signing typical of hughes that nearly cost us Joe hart - a winner, Englands number 1 and a far superior keeper with over a decade left in the game. Shay was a typical hughes signing once his bottle went (short term comfort zone never gonna be up to it in the long term)

 

[Andy Conway]

Yesterday on Sky it was said Hughes made excellent signings. My recolection was Santa Roque who was a disaster Did he sign Bridge as well? What were his other excellent signings for us?

Nigel De Jong - Good player, off the boil at the moment.
Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.
Robinho - Show pony, but it did raise the profile of the club and (arguably) paved the way for some of the current players.
Pablo Zabaleta - A very good player and still underrated.
Craig Bellamy - Did a sterling job for us at the time, not good enough now.
Gareth Barry - Good then, good now. Workhorse.
Wayne Bridge - Imploded.

So it's a mixed bag really.

You missed out

Jo
Tal ben Haim
Sylvinho?

 

[blueinsa]

No doubting he made some very good signings but lets be honest here. Given the financial clout at his disposal, it wasn't going to be difficult was it?

Bottom line is though he blew his biggest and best chance due to both him and his coaching team just not having the skills required.

Unable to ever admit to that though he instead spent half his time looking to blame their own failings on various players and leaking his sob stories to his press buddies.

Clueless and Kia are a match made in heaven in that respect.

 

[Matty]

Hughes isn't a bad manager, he's just not a particularly good one either. Blackburn, Fulham and now QPR are his level, bottom half, possibly the occasional foray into 10th or 9th place, and avoid relegation. That's his remit, and that's his level. He'll do well enough with a limited budget, he'll make teams hard to beat, but not expansive or all that entertaining.

Manchester City, with their funding and ambitions were far too big for Mark Hughes. Yes, he bought some very good players, like De Jong and Kompany, but his insistance on buying "Premiership proven" talent in the main was expensive, and not nearly successful enough. For every Lescott (a good player but way too much money) you've got a Bridge, or a Santa Cruz.

 

[Citizen Green]

Hughes isn't a bad manager, he's just not a particularly good one either. Blackburn, Fulham and now QPR are his level, bottom half, possibly the occasional foray into 10th or 9th place, and avoid relegation. That's his remit, and that's his level. He'll do well enough with a limited budget, he'll make teams hard to beat, but not expansive or all that entertaining.

Manchester City, with their funding and ambitions were far too big for Mark Hughes. Yes, he bought some very good players, like De Jong and Kompany, but his insistance on buying "Premiership proven" talent in the main was expensive, and not nearly successful enough. For every Lescott (a good player but way too much money) you've got a Bridge, or a Santa Cruz.

This sums up my feelings on him entirely, he has perhaps the potential to turn into a manager capable of attaining Europa League football on a regular basis (at a QPR or Blackburn where that would be viewed as a success) but at the top level he's not good enough.

Ironically some of his best signings at City were the ones he spent the least on, Zabaleta & Kompany.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

He's good enough to get teams that might be flirting with relegation under another manager into the top half. QPR are a team with ambition and with Fernandes' money and Hughes' management, should be able to achieve that.

He was probably good enough to get us 4th and win us a cup. But I don't think he was good enough to do any better than that.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Hughes isn't a bad manager, he's just not a particularly good one either. Blackburn, Fulham and now QPR are his level, bottom half, possibly the occasional foray into 10th or 9th place, and avoid relegation. That's his remit, and that's his level. He'll do well enough with a limited budget, he'll make teams hard to beat, but not expansive or all that entertaining.

Manchester City, with their funding and ambitions were far too big for Mark Hughes. Yes, he bought some very good players, like De Jong and Kompany, but his insistance on buying "Premiership proven" talent in the main was expensive, and not nearly successful enough. For every Lescott (a good player but way too much money) you've got a Bridge, or a Santa Cruz.

It was his arrogance in pursuit of those targets that I found quite galling. It'll be the same now he has Samba on his radar and the fact that Hughes has got big money to spend
I give him a maximum of two years at QPR, because as you say Matty, he's a mid table manager at best and the QPR owner will be expecting much more than that

 

[BlueTG]

Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.

Isn't and was never 'one of the best around'. A short term signing typical of hughes that nearly cost us Joe hart - a winner, Englands number 1 and a far superior keeper with over a decade left in the game. Shay was a typical hughes signing once his bottle went (short term comfort zone never gonna be up to it in the long term)

I agree, completely pushed Hart out of the picture when Given was bought, really thought he'd have left us if hughes stayed in charge.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:39 pm --<br /><br />

Yesterday on Sky it was said Hughes made excellent signings. My recolection was Santa Roque who was a disaster Did he sign Bridge as well? What were his other excellent signings for us?

Nigel De Jong - Good player, off the boil at the moment.
Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.
Robinho - Show pony, but it did raise the profile of the club and (arguably) paved the way for some of the current players.
Pablo Zabaleta - A very good player and still underrated.
Craig Bellamy - Did a sterling job for us at the time, not good enough now.
Gareth Barry - Good then, good now. Workhorse.
Wayne Bridge - Imploded.

So it's a mixed bag really.

You missed out

Jo
Tal ben Haim
Sylvinho?

I thought Jo was Sven's signing, but it wasn't quite completed when he was sacked and Hughes followed it through and continued the transfer?

They said something on Sunday Supplement yesterday about him making in the region of 20-odd signings for us and about 7 of them turning out to be half decent for the club.

 

[Andy Conway]

Yesterday on Sky it was said Hughes made excellent signings. My recolection was Santa Roque who was a disaster Did he sign Bridge as well? What were his other excellent signings for us?

Nigel De Jong - Good player, off the boil at the moment.
Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.
Robinho - Show pony, but it did raise the profile of the club and (arguably) paved the way for some of the current players.
Pablo Zabaleta - A very good player and still underrated.
Craig Bellamy - Did a sterling job for us at the time, not good enough now.
Gareth Barry - Good then, good now. Workhorse.
Wayne Bridge - Imploded.

So it's a mixed bag really.

You missed out

Jo
Tal ben Haim
Sylvinho?

Oh and Lescott and Tevez.

 

[Matty]

Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.

Isn't and was never 'one of the best around'. A short term signing typical of hughes that nearly cost us Joe hart - a winner, Englands number 1 and a far superior keeper with over a decade left in the game. Shay was a typical hughes signing once his bottle went (short term comfort zone never gonna be up to it in the long term)

I agree, completely pushed Hart out of the picture when Given was bought, really thought he'd have left us if hughes stayed in charge.

-- Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:39 pm --

Nigel De Jong - Good player, off the boil at the moment.
Shay Given - One of the best keepers around (still), but was never going to be happy as a second string.
Robinho - Show pony, but it did raise the profile of the club and (arguably) paved the way for some of the current players.
Pablo Zabaleta - A very good player and still underrated.
Craig Bellamy - Did a sterling job for us at the time, not good enough now.
Gareth Barry - Good then, good now. Workhorse.
Wayne Bridge - Imploded.

So it's a mixed bag really.

You missed out

Jo
Tal ben Haim
Sylvinho?

I thought Jo was Sven's signing, but it wasn't quite completed when he was sacked and Hughes followed it through and continued the transfer?

They said something on Sunday Supplement yesterday about him making in the region of 20-odd signings for us and about 7 of them turning out to be half decent for the club.

I think Jo was a Shinawatra signing, I don't think Sven or Hughes actually wanted him.

 

[Andy Conway]

I thought Jo was Sven's signing, but it wasn't quite completed when he was sacked and Hughes followed it through and continued the transfer?

They said something on Sunday Supplement yesterday about him making in the region of 20-odd signings for us and about 7 of them turning out to be half decent for the club.

It was definitely in motion before Hughes arrived, but he did put his name to it and say he was totally happy with the signing.

In the end I don't think it was Sven or Hughes' signing. Looks very much like it was Thaksin's way of laundering money (announced as 19m but rumored to only be 4m).