How important is the PL title actually?

Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Even Whisky Nose has said that rag fans better get used to us challenging for the next 10 years as we are not going to go away.

I thought we had as good a chance as any with the start we made but despite that we never really opened up a big enough gap. 5 points is decent but its not too big to close as proven.

Our form away isnt great but our form overall is still very good. We have 13 points from 18 and thats 3rd to Arsenal and Rags. Unfortunately the rags are on an exceptional run. 25/27 points at this stage of the season is hard to keep pace with.

I think this season the rags were very lucky to play Arsenal twice when they did, Chelsea twice, Everton away and Liverpool at home. All of these teams were playing very poorly at those points in the season.

We havent been so fortunate with fixtures other than Spurs away.

Next season I expect they wont be as lucky with that and I take encouragment that we still beat Arsenal when they came to use on the back of 4 wins and Chelsea the same.

My view is that we wont win it this year now as I cant see us winning more than 2 away games and that is being optimistic. Our record at Arsenal is shambolic and they have won their last 7 games! It is completely the wrong time to be facing them and I still think they were the best side we have faced at home this season, a game that could have gone their way.

The only chance we have is if the rags form starts to slip. I am hoping that Blackburn and Wigan may be the games they slip up as both of those sides are fighting and in decent form but with Wigan I am definately being optimistic as that is a rag win nearly every season. If we can stay within 3 and at least level on GD then we have a chance. Fulhams one win in 49 at the swamp doesnt give me any hope thats for sure!

The big danger is the possible sacking of Mancini and the inevitable rebuilding that would then be needed. It shouldnt happen based on the season we have had but if Mourinho makes any noises that he would come then I think it could happen.


This is the best post I have read on here in six months. Bang on the money!

Take a bow, son!

If Mancini were sacked, it would only be for Mourinho IMO. There is no danger which comes with that.

Not so much a rebuilding job, the fundamentals are well in situ.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Even Whisky Nose has said that rag fans better get used to us challenging for the next 10 years as we are not going to go away.

I thought we had as good a chance as any with the start we made but despite that we never really opened up a big enough gap. 5 points is decent but its not too big to close as proven.

Our form away isnt great but our form overall is still very good. We have 13 points from 18 and thats 3rd to Arsenal and Rags. Unfortunately the rags are on an exceptional run. 25/27 points at this stage of the season is hard to keep pace with.

I think this season the rags were very lucky to play Arsenal twice when they did, Chelsea twice, Everton away and Liverpool at home. All of these teams were playing very poorly at those points in the season.

We havent been so fortunate with fixtures other than Spurs away.

Next season I expect they wont be as lucky with that and I take encouragment that we still beat Arsenal when they came to use on the back of 4 wins and Chelsea the same.

My view is that we wont win it this year now as I cant see us winning more than 2 away games and that is being optimistic. Our record at Arsenal is shambolic and they have won their last 7 games! It is completely the wrong time to be facing them and I still think they were the best side we have faced at home this season, a game that could have gone their way.

The only chance we have is if the rags form starts to slip. I am hoping that Blackburn and Wigan may be the games they slip up as both of those sides are fighting and in decent form but with Wigan I am definately being optimistic as that is a rag win nearly every season. If we can stay within 3 and at least level on GD then we have a chance. Fulhams one win in 49 at the swamp doesnt give me any hope thats for sure!

The big danger is the possible sacking of Mancini and the inevitable rebuilding that would then be needed. It shouldnt happen based on the season we have had but if Mourinho makes any noises that he would come then I think it could happen.


This is the best post I have read on here in six months. Bang on the money!

Take a bow, son!

If Mancini were sacked, it would only be for Mourinho IMO. There is no danger which comes with that.

Not so much a rebuilding job, the fundamentals are well in situ.

Seconded. Mancini definitely deserves the chance to put right our away form next season (Mourinho's availability excepted), but he needs to deliver the title next season imo.
 
SWP's back said:
That is of no consequence and I see no reason why you keep mentioning it.

I think we were in the race and that's why I said what I said about points dropped. I've just double checked and it's actually 11 points dropped post United, 14 including the United match in February.

I'll try saying it another way. If we hadn't lost to Wolves, Villa, and Sunderland last season - three teams we should have dispatched with ease - in the first half of the season, we'd have finished on the same points as United.
 
hgblue said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Even Whisky Nose has said that rag fans better get used to us challenging for the next 10 years as we are not going to go away.

I thought we had as good a chance as any with the start we made but despite that we never really opened up a big enough gap. 5 points is decent but its not too big to close as proven.

Our form away isnt great but our form overall is still very good. We have 13 points from 18 and thats 3rd to Arsenal and Rags. Unfortunately the rags are on an exceptional run. 25/27 points at this stage of the season is hard to keep pace with.

I think this season the rags were very lucky to play Arsenal twice when they did, Chelsea twice, Everton away and Liverpool at home. All of these teams were playing very poorly at those points in the season.

We havent been so fortunate with fixtures other than Spurs away.

Next season I expect they wont be as lucky with that and I take encouragment that we still beat Arsenal when they came to use on the back of 4 wins and Chelsea the same.

My view is that we wont win it this year now as I cant see us winning more than 2 away games and that is being optimistic. Our record at Arsenal is shambolic and they have won their last 7 games! It is completely the wrong time to be facing them and I still think they were the best side we have faced at home this season, a game that could have gone their way.

The only chance we have is if the rags form starts to slip. I am hoping that Blackburn and Wigan may be the games they slip up as both of those sides are fighting and in decent form but with Wigan I am definately being optimistic as that is a rag win nearly every season. If we can stay within 3 and at least level on GD then we have a chance. Fulhams one win in 49 at the swamp doesnt give me any hope thats for sure!

The big danger is the possible sacking of Mancini and the inevitable rebuilding that would then be needed. It shouldnt happen based on the season we have had but if Mourinho makes any noises that he would come then I think it could happen.


This is the best post I have read on here in six months. Bang on the money!

Take a bow, son!

If Mancini were sacked, it would only be for Mourinho IMO. There is no danger which comes with that.

Not so much a rebuilding job, the fundamentals are well in situ.

Seconded. Mancini definitely deserves the chance to put right our away form next season (Mourinho's availability excepted), but he needs to deliver the title next season imo.

He'll DEFINETELY need to deliver it next season ......

if we don't win it now the owners are gonna be extremely disappointed , and he'll be lucky to make it through to the next campaign !
 
we cannot give in, i am hearing too much of this from our supporters..

for some reason a lot of people think that Utd will win every game,this is not going to happen.

they have a very ordinary team apart from one or two players and they will drop points..

i think the end of the season could get very interesting, if its nip and tuck there younger players could get very twitchy..

we just have to keep believing and support our team..
 
BillyShears said:
SWP's back said:
That is of no consequence and I see no reason why you keep mentioning it.

I think we were in the race and that's why I said what I said about points dropped. I've just double checked and it's actually 11 points dropped post United, 14 including the United match in February.

I'll try saying it another way. If we hadn't lost to Wolves, Villa, and Sunderland last season - three teams we should have dispatched with ease - in the first half of the season, we'd have finished on the same points as United.

Why can't we postpone the postmorten until the patient actually dies?
 
It's so important that Mancini flew to Medjugorje (Bosnia and Herzegovina) to experience the apparition of Holy Mary and pray to her for a miracle. I suppose he already know he'll be sacked if he doesn't win the title.
 
The difference is having a figure head. That lot had Cantona; Scholes and Giggs learnt from him and now they have Rooney [virtually injury fee this season and enough said].

We need the first one to lead the line for the new dynasty that MCFC will become. He will be bought. We have the greatest patronage in world football EVER. I've lived and worked in the UAE [as many others have on BM]. The Emirati Sheikhs have uncountable and unaccountable wealth.

We will win everything. It's just a matter of time, as even Fergie knows. CTID
 
There are 8 games to play and 3 points in it. If we were not in the race, then 90% of people on here would agree that nothing is decided.

There is no point in appealing to people to be more optimistic. We are all anxious and we are all hopeful. The only thing I know for certain right now is that it's a great time to be a blue.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Having a discussion with a fellow blue in work yesterday. My view is that, at this stage of our development, actually winning the league is of secondary importance to doing well in the CL. The reason for that is financial.

Coming second costs us about £1.8m I think compared to winning it but getting to the quarter or semi-final of the CL gains us more than ten times that. Plus it enhances our global standing, thereby increasing our commercial appeal. As increasing our income substantially is one of the key requirements of the business plan then that's more important than actually winning the league in my view.


OK, just stumbled across this thread and without reading the first ten pages this may already have been mentioned
When it comes to finance, is the £1.8M in relation just to prize money of winning the Prem?
In the Champs league, money is divided between national associations with the associations that are supposedly more appealing to the television audience having a bigger share of the kitty, so an English club receives far money than a Scottish club.
The English Champions also receive a larger share of their associations money at the early stages than the other English clubs in the competition.
So for that financial fact, it's important for us to win the league
 

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