hilts said:-nibz- said:hilts said:I think the thread title should be who believes in organised religion, a belief in God in itself is not evil or even a hindrance to anyone else, human cruelty is your problem and if all religion disappeared tomorrow this would continue
Belief in God is organised
Expand or don't bother
nimrod said:I believe in some sort of god (dont like the word God) but maybe a force that exists or once existed, the big bang (if it happened) had to be 'created' somehow, there are too many things that science doesnt explain.
Markt85 said:Suppose so
GratefulDawg said:Count me in. Religion is one big waste of time.
As long as it took for the priests to bum himnimrod said:GratefulDawg said:Count me in. Religion is one big waste of time.
How much time have you personally wasted on it mate ?
Damocles said:nimrod said:I believe in some sort of god (dont like the word God) but maybe a force that exists or once existed, the big bang (if it happened) had to be 'created' somehow, there are too many things that science doesnt explain.
You've confused not currently having the technology to test the explanations we have with not having any explanations.
The Big Bang wasn't created, this is a misunderstanding in terms. The Big Bang was the first moment time existed. The flow of time is the thing that demands causality to exist. Without time there is no need for causality and it's very possible for things to exist without being created.
You've also made the mistake of saying that the Big Bang "must have being created" but following your own logic this means that whatever created that "must have being created", and this line continues on until you get a to a point where you must accept that it is possible for something to not have a creator. Once you've accepted this you can apply the same logic to the Big Bang.
Wretched Vengeance said:Damocles said:nimrod said:I believe in some sort of god (dont like the word God) but maybe a force that exists or once existed, the big bang (if it happened) had to be 'created' somehow, there are too many things that science doesnt explain.
You've confused not currently having the technology to test the explanations we have with not having any explanations.
The Big Bang wasn't created, this is a misunderstanding in terms. The Big Bang was the first moment time existed. The flow of time is the thing that demands causality to exist. Without time there is no need for causality and it's very possible for things to exist without being created.
You've also made the mistake of saying that the Big Bang "must have being created" but following your own logic this means that whatever created that "must have being created", and this line continues on until you get a to a point where you must accept that it is possible for something to not have a creator. Once you've accepted this you can apply the same logic to the Big Bang.
Or you could have just said:
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