bluebean
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
i think we'll get 11 and this will be enuf!
i think we'll get 11 and this will be enuf!
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how many points from these 6 games / BBC predictor {merged}
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somervillain
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
It's not as simple as points, because two of the matches are against direct competition for fourth.
Coming into that penultimate weekend where the Villans visit Eastlands, expect Villa to be in fourth, Liverpool just behind them in fifth, and City a couple of points back in sixth.
Villa should be favored in their next four league matches (Everton, @Portsmouth, @Hull, Brum), so I would expect eight points to be the minimum haul for them from those four, with 10 or 12 points being a very distinct possibility. And with Blackburn at home in the final weekend, Villa should get at least 11 points aside from their match at Eastlands.
Liverpool should win their next three (Fulham, West Ham, @Burnley), figure to lose to Chelsea, and win at Hull on the final match day for 12 points.
Spurs don't figure to get a single point in the next three matches (Arsenal, Chelsea, @United), but they should bank three at home against Bolton and at home in the finale at Burnley. So that's six, aside from the match at City.
So ignoring the City v. Villa and City v. Spurs matches, that gives us:
Liverpool 67
Villa 65
Spurs 64
I would say the most likely outcomes for City are win over Brum, draw with United, loss at Arsenal, and win at West Ham. That's seven points, putting City at 66.
So if City can win at home over Brum and at West Ham, and get a result at home against United, then they can draw with both Villa and Spurs and still finish fourth.
These results in other matches, combined with a win over one of Villa or Spurs and a loss to the other should still mean fourth for City.
A loss to Villa and dropping of points against Spurs figures to see Villa finish fourth, while a draw with Villa and a loss to Spurs should see City and Liverpool finish even on points.
So, to answer your question, I would say City need a minimum of nine points from their six remaining fixtures, but the key is not losing to Villa.
It's not as simple as points, because two of the matches are against direct competition for fourth.
Coming into that penultimate weekend where the Villans visit Eastlands, expect Villa to be in fourth, Liverpool just behind them in fifth, and City a couple of points back in sixth.
Villa should be favored in their next four league matches (Everton, @Portsmouth, @Hull, Brum), so I would expect eight points to be the minimum haul for them from those four, with 10 or 12 points being a very distinct possibility. And with Blackburn at home in the final weekend, Villa should get at least 11 points aside from their match at Eastlands.
Liverpool should win their next three (Fulham, West Ham, @Burnley), figure to lose to Chelsea, and win at Hull on the final match day for 12 points.
Spurs don't figure to get a single point in the next three matches (Arsenal, Chelsea, @United), but they should bank three at home against Bolton and at home in the finale at Burnley. So that's six, aside from the match at City.
So ignoring the City v. Villa and City v. Spurs matches, that gives us:
Liverpool 67
Villa 65
Spurs 64
I would say the most likely outcomes for City are win over Brum, draw with United, loss at Arsenal, and win at West Ham. That's seven points, putting City at 66.
So if City can win at home over Brum and at West Ham, and get a result at home against United, then they can draw with both Villa and Spurs and still finish fourth.
These results in other matches, combined with a win over one of Villa or Spurs and a loss to the other should still mean fourth for City.
A loss to Villa and dropping of points against Spurs figures to see Villa finish fourth, while a draw with Villa and a loss to Spurs should see City and Liverpool finish even on points.
So, to answer your question, I would say City need a minimum of nine points from their six remaining fixtures, but the key is not losing to Villa.
Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
There's a scene in the sci-fi horror film "Alien", where Yaphet Kotto's character says "This things huge, its as big as a man!", he's trying to explain to the rest of the crew that its not the tiny chestburster there up against, but a *uck of big wrecking machine and it totally changes the situation on the ship.
I can imagine that if we get the 4th spot, there'll be a fair few scousers, rags, gooners, spuds, villains and evertonians, having a similar moment of reflection.
There's a scene in the sci-fi horror film "Alien", where Yaphet Kotto's character says "This things huge, its as big as a man!", he's trying to explain to the rest of the crew that its not the tiny chestburster there up against, but a *uck of big wrecking machine and it totally changes the situation on the ship.
I can imagine that if we get the 4th spot, there'll be a fair few scousers, rags, gooners, spuds, villains and evertonians, having a similar moment of reflection.
Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
Spurs have arsenal home, we have them away. I honestly see Spurs taking 5 points from their next 3... win arsenal, draw chelsea, united.. if not 6. To be honest, I think we have an equally hard run in. Until today, trying to look at it objectively, I would've backed Liverpool.. based on their performance, I wouldn't rule them out. Chelsea are hit and miss, so they could actually go and win all 5.
In the end, I predict a pretty little week or so of doom and gloom here within the next month because things in football never run so straightforward. We are in the driving seat now, ok... but this is far from over. It is city we're talking about..should we get it, no way we'll do it the easy way.
Hold on to your hats guys, there's more than a month still to go.
Spurs have arsenal home, we have them away. I honestly see Spurs taking 5 points from their next 3... win arsenal, draw chelsea, united.. if not 6. To be honest, I think we have an equally hard run in. Until today, trying to look at it objectively, I would've backed Liverpool.. based on their performance, I wouldn't rule them out. Chelsea are hit and miss, so they could actually go and win all 5.
In the end, I predict a pretty little week or so of doom and gloom here within the next month because things in football never run so straightforward. We are in the driving seat now, ok... but this is far from over. It is city we're talking about..should we get it, no way we'll do it the easy way.
Hold on to your hats guys, there's more than a month still to go.
somervillain
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
I have to ask what you have seen out of Spurs or those three opponents that makes you think Spurs are capable of getting a single result out of those fixtures, let alone results in all three of them.
Spurs' opponents should be favored in all three of those.
Dhenry said:Spurs have arsenal home, we have them away. I honestly see Spurs taking 5 points from their next 3... win arsenal, draw chelsea, united.. if not 6.
I have to ask what you have seen out of Spurs or those three opponents that makes you think Spurs are capable of getting a single result out of those fixtures, let alone results in all three of them.
Spurs' opponents should be favored in all three of those.
Wheelsy
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
I've got a minimum of 10.
3 v Birmingham, Aston Villa, and West Ham
1 v Tottenham
I darenot suggest we'll get anything from the Rags and Arsenal, although we might.
And that will be enough I feel. Even if Liverpool win all their remaining games, that's only 15 points. We would need to take 11 to stay on top of them — very doable.
Spuds would need 11 to equal us on points, again assuming we get 10 more. We'll write Burnley off, so they would need 8 against Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Bolton, and us. Can you see them getting three wins in all that?
Again, I've used 10 more as worst-case scenario, and even then I think it'll be enough.
I've got a minimum of 10.
3 v Birmingham, Aston Villa, and West Ham
1 v Tottenham
I darenot suggest we'll get anything from the Rags and Arsenal, although we might.
And that will be enough I feel. Even if Liverpool win all their remaining games, that's only 15 points. We would need to take 11 to stay on top of them — very doable.
Spuds would need 11 to equal us on points, again assuming we get 10 more. We'll write Burnley off, so they would need 8 against Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Bolton, and us. Can you see them getting three wins in all that?
Again, I've used 10 more as worst-case scenario, and even then I think it'll be enough.
Luke The Blue
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
Ours to throw away really
Lets hope we keep on pushing for this 4th spot!
COME ON CITY!!!
Ours to throw away really
Lets hope we keep on pushing for this 4th spot!
COME ON CITY!!!
citytill1die84
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
Win the 4 home games and we are home and dry i'd say easier said than done like but 4 home wins and Champions League here we come :)
Win the 4 home games and we are home and dry i'd say easier said than done like but 4 home wins and Champions League here we come :)
Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
i think we only need 9 points 2 wins 3 draws 1 defeat.but i feel we can get minimum of 12 points,with all our strike force remaining fit for the next 6 games thats our advantage over our rivals.
i think we only need 9 points 2 wins 3 draws 1 defeat.but i feel we can get minimum of 12 points,with all our strike force remaining fit for the next 6 games thats our advantage over our rivals.
Petrovs left peg
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Re: how many points do you think we'll need from these 6 games?
One game at a time as they say. Putting it simply, the biggest game of the season right now is the Brum game. With spuds not playing arsenal til next weds I believe the pressure will be too much for them if they are playing catch up and were four points in front.
Fucking come onnnnnnnnnnn !!!!!!!?
One game at a time as they say. Putting it simply, the biggest game of the season right now is the Brum game. With spuds not playing arsenal til next weds I believe the pressure will be too much for them if they are playing catch up and were four points in front.
Fucking come onnnnnnnnnnn !!!!!!!?