How UEFA shifted the goalposts on FFP. The definitive story.

Prestwich_Blue said:
LOL. You're both wrong actually although Dicke Davies is partly right in that our losses were over £100m.

Our aggregate losses were just over £150m before adjustments. We could knock £35m off that for FFP purposes making an aggregate break-even deficit of £115m. We were allowed to lose £38m so we were £77m short of meeting FFP. That figure is the definitive one and, whatever UEFA did, we still failed by that amount. Had we been able to offset our £80m wages, as agreed with UEFA, under FFP's Annex XI, then in principle we wouldn't have faced any sanctions. But we'd have still failed FFP by £77m.
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hi there I was just wondering do you know how much Liverpool failed FFP I think in 2014 but where not punish becouse the did not make it into Europe. I am using all info I can against my Liverpool friends.
 
Cityfan1977 said:
hi there I was just wondering do you know how much Liverpool failed FFP I think in 2014 but where not punish becouse the did not make it into Europe. I am using all info I can against my Liverpool friends.
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That's right as far as I know but even if they had been in Europe I think they'd have got away with it as I reckon they could have used the Annex XI provision to claim that their wages paid on pre-June 2010 contracts were the sole cause of any losses.

But they were definitely in breach and reported to the Club Financial Control Board.
 
It's a great pity that FFP does not work on what it should do. DEBT. There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of clubs which were mismanaged to such a degree that they fell through the leagues and into history. This issue should be the one that is investigated from on High, not the genuine cases where an owner can sign off a debt without effect to his club. In our case, it isn't because we are in trouble. It is because we are on a heavy restructuring plan that gets us back, permanently, to a place where we should never have been away from. When I look back at all those wasted years under Swales where we we turned from a reasonably strong club into a basket case, one that was close to going under with only the forced sale of SWP saving us then the picture becomes clear. There used to be a standing joke that said if you want to make a small fortune out of football, you started out with a large one. Only since the ADUG takeover has this sorry mess been turned around and rather than the football authorities trying to punish us for it, they should be eternally grateful for what has been achieved at our club and with it the knock-on affect that his been passed on to the rest of the PL.
 
I mentioned it earlier in this thread that whoever made these allegations would be made to appear in court given the seriousness involved. That the name of this person is being hidden would suggest that the issue goes no further unless he wishes to spend a good few years holed up in a foreign embassy well away from here.
 
nmc said:
Beats me how we are getting all this shit and PSG are openly shoving two fingers up to FFP and seem to be getting off Scot free!
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We know why!? Liverpool Arsenal chelsea and the scum dont give a shit about psg and stopping them its us that they want to stop.
 
I have followed this thread with interest over the years and as with all city fans it pisses me off we are being singled out like this. But surely if PSG get away with what they are doing UEFA can’t then come after us if we do the same?, or are we more handicapped by the premier leagues ffp rules?
 
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