Howard Webb

I understand where Howard is coming from on this one, BUT ONLY if the player was not Aguero who just doesn't have a reputation as a diver.
Most players cheat these days and any sign of cheating must make a pen appeal null and void.
Players must appear to fall naturally if they don't the pen appeal should be waved away.
 
I understand where Howard is coming from on this one, BUT ONLY if the player was not Aguero who just doesn't have a reputation as a diver.
Most players cheat these days and any sign of cheating must make a pen appeal null and void.
Players must appear to fall naturally if they don't the pen appeal should be waved away.

Yeh I agree a bit like Mempuis who jumped 4ft in the air after having been tapped on the shin that Webb insisted was a definite pen.....
 
The ref at the Spurs v Leicester match (Madley) couldn't get the whistle to his mouth fast enough when the ball bounced up onto Dyer's hand.

If that had been us instead of Spurs - no penalty.
 
I agree with all that. I was just trying to bring a bit of perspective. From a personal point of view, I've never had an issue with not getting decisions. If the officials haven't seen it, then they haven't seen it. I do, on the other hand, struggle to understand them giving things that just haven't happened! An offside should never be given that is subsequently proven to be onside. Similarly a foul shouldn't be given, where no foul has been committed and no booking for simulation should be handed out, where no dive has occurred.
As for the fouling stats, there was quite a brew ha made of the 'net' foul statistics. We appear to have the worst record in that we commit many fouls and don't get given many in return. The theory goes that, as we have more possession than most, there must be nefarious deeds afoot. I rather suspect it's a bit more complex than that. We have players who rarely look to go down when fouled, we have lots of 'advantage' played as most of our players are mentally very aware of what's going on around them and we have defenders who are either trying to get the ball before a forward gets it with the inherent risks that runs, or defenders and midfielders caught hopelessly out of position and a foul/booking is the obvious course of action. Of course, I could well be wrong and there may well be a cabal of referees who just decide how they can screw us over every week!

It's not a conscious thing or a conspiracy it's a way of thinking which has become the norm after many years.

In this country the 'old guard' teams get more than their fair share of decisions & those who challenge them get stitched up more than their fair share. Same will then happen with Real Madrid, Barca etc etc.

I think the media directly effects the way officials think too, hence it's important we stand up to it. Ferguson knew this.

20 years from now, Liverpool etc may get shit on & we may get soft fouls given. Right now we are the enemy of the 'old guard' & it subconciously effects officials in the same way that neutral, English fans find it a natural thing to boo Sterling for leaving Liverpool, without thinking why they are booing him.

We are subject to negative thinking.
 
The ref at the Spurs v Leicester match (Madley) couldn't get the whistle to his mouth fast enough when the ball bounced up onto Dyer's hand.

If that had been us instead of Spurs - no penalty.


please excuse the language, but how that c**t could give a penalty today, (when his view was blocked) ,and not give one last Wednesday, (when he had a clear unobstructed view and was looking straight at it ) absolutely beggars belief!

ALL penalty decisions, whether given or not given , are by definition game-changing, and as such should ALL be reviewed, (either by the referee himself ala Rugby, or the 4th official on a TV monitor, or even a panel of officials, be it in the stand or elsewhere, )

Use of video technology can't come soon enough, who care's if you can't get ALL decisions right, i absolutely guarantee you there would be a lot less wrong ones than at the moment,

That goes for Red cards too. Nobody doubts it will come, its just a matter of when, and in what form.
 
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The ref at the Spurs v Leicester match (Madley) couldn't get the whistle to his mouth fast enough when the ball bounced up onto Dyer's hand.

If that had been us instead of Spurs - no penalty.
Navas at Everton, he didn't give that one, same ref. Bent.
 

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