Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row, MuEN block comments

[Pam]

No fornicator should care what the clueless one thinks.

 

[oakiecokie]

Can I ask you from where you get your information? Not being smart or anything, I'm just interested where people who don't read papers get their info from

Probably by listening to what other daft fookers tell him !! ;)

If you mean by listening to 'daft fookers' on here, then yes, you're correct.

Don`t know whether to take that as a compliment or an insult ?? ;)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Seriously though, what do you think the UEFA FFP Regulations are all about?

I think they are a misguided attempt by Platini to bring some financial discipline into the game which because of the power of the established clubs - the G14 I guess - could only be enabled if it didn't threaten their status.

The fact that it enhances their status is serendipitous for them, but I don't believe that was the original intention. To believe that we are the reason FFP was conceived of, is a little too far fetched for me.

In actual fact I don't see FFP being a threat to us at all, and on that basis it can only cement our position, as the drawbridge get pulled up on the likes of Spurs, Liverpool and possibly even Arsenal.

How much would veron's and camel's transfer be worth in todays market? Why not FFP then? Not far-fetched at all.

Yeah that's right. UEFA have changed the overarching rules of European football to stop one football club muscling in.

I think you have delusions of granduer about our importance in the greater scheme of things.

 

[Dave S]

Probably by listening to what other daft fookers tell him !! ;)

If you mean by listening to 'daft fookers' on here, then yes, you're correct.

Don`t know whether to take that as a compliment or an insult ?? ;)

No names, no pack drill :-)

 

[oakiecokie]

If you mean by listening to 'daft fookers' on here, then yes, you're correct.

Don`t know whether to take that as a compliment or an insult ?? ;)

No names, no pack drill :-)

Just as well I`ve got broad shoulders mate.

 

[2sheikhs]

I think they are a misguided attempt by Platini to bring some financial discipline into the game which because of the power of the established clubs - the G14 I guess - could only be enabled if it didn't threaten their status.

The fact that it enhances their status is serendipitous for them, but I don't believe that was the original intention. To believe that we are the reason FFP was conceived of, is a little too far fetched for me.

In actual fact I don't see FFP being a threat to us at all, and on that basis it can only cement our position, as the drawbridge get pulled up on the likes of Spurs, Liverpool and possibly even Arsenal.

How much would veron's and camel's transfer be worth in todays market? Why not FFP then? Not far-fetched at all.

Yeah that's right. UEFA have changed the overarching rules of European football to stop one football club muscling in.

I think you have delusions of granduer about our importance in the greater scheme of things.

Our importance in the greater scheme of things led to every top seed in the champions league draw dreading getting us in their group, and the ones that did get us weren't too happy about it.

 

[Welcome to Manchester]

They aren't facts then are they? Facts aren't things that are based on your personal experiences, those are called opinions.

Erm, if my posts were blocked by the MUEN then this is a fact and not an opinion - or like Brennan are you also accusing me of lying?
If you have an experience it becomes something that has happened hence it becomes a fact.

Have you kept a copy of any of the posts which were blocked?
If not, next time you have a comment blocked, copy it and put it on here and I will either give you my opinion of why it was blocked, or try to find out why it was blocked.

I haven't posted on the MUEN for over 2 years and won't be doing so in future because of the disgraceful bias shown when I have tried to contribute.
Why would I keep blocked comments from 2 years ago?
I do however remember comments published by the MUEN from rags of a bigoted nature telling a blue with an asian name to "get back where he came from" and racist comments about SWP which I complained about and to be fair were removed. If the mods are so good why were the comments of this nature posted by rags allowed on the City forum in the first place?

As I've said, the lad who allows or blocks comments is a Blue, and a genuine lad - and he has not had anyone tell him he has to be biased towards United, or anything else of that ilk.
Why would we do that? That is the question that the conpsiracy theorists consistently fail to answer - what could it possibly benefit the MEN to be anti-City?

If it was just me who has had a poor experience with the MUEN bias then fair enough however I have lost count of the number of blues who I know personally or who have posted on here with similar experiences.
The behaviour of your chief sports editor over a consistent period of time has helped cement the opinion of most people and as the saying goes a fish stinks from its head so maybe the answer to the anti-City bias lies there.
It probably doesn't benefit your paper from being anti-City but my own experience and that of countless others is that it is and frankly you are pissing in the wind by trying to say otherwise.

We get no help from United, Fergie hates us and, as I said, my own coverage of the Glazer takeover made me persona non grata at Old Trafford, and caused us a lot of problems with United.

I couldn't really give a toss about the opinion of baconface about the MUEN - the man is basically a bully who spits his dummy out whenever someone doesnt lick his arse - and we know what they say about bullies.



-- Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:14 pm --

Did the MUEN interview hughes or did they just print what he said elsewhere?

He wasn't interviewed by any of our staff. Without looking into it, I would guess he was interviewed by a Press Association reporter while he was at the Leaders in Football conference.
We subscribe to PA and will have got the story that way. It didn't go in the paper, just online - and the website basically runs just about every City and United story they can get their hands on, to keep the story count ticking over[/quote]

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

How much would veron's and camel's transfer be worth in todays market? Why not FFP then? Not far-fetched at all.

Yeah that's right. UEFA have changed the overarching rules of European football to stop one football club muscling in.

I think you have delusions of granduer about our importance in the greater scheme of things.

Our importance in the greater scheme of things led to every top seed in the champions league draw dreading getting us in their group, and the ones that did get us weren't too happy about it.

That's hardly compelling evidence as to why the whole of the rules of European football have been changed with the sole intention of neutering our threat, as you are suggesting.

"City look like they could be quite strong on the pitch in the next couple of years. I know, we'll completely change the financial rules across the whole of football to try and stop them in their tracks".

That's right, that's just how the world works.

Quick question. Are you one of those people who think the moon landings were fake?

 

[stuart brennan]

I haven't posted on the MUEN for over 2 years and won't be doing so in future because of the disgraceful bias shown when I have tried to contribute.
Why would I keep blocked comments from 2 years ago?
I do however remember comments published by the MUEN from rags of a bigoted nature telling a blue with an asian name to "get back where he came from" and racist comments about SWP which I complained about and to be fair were removed. If the mods are so good why were the comments of this nature posted by rags allowed on the City forum in the first place?

If it was just me who has had a poor experience with the MUEN bias then fair enough however I have lost count of the number of blues who I know personally or who have posted on here with similar experiences.
The behaviour of your chief sports editor over a consistent period of time has helped cement the opinion of most people and as the saying goes a fish stinks from its head so maybe the answer to the anti-City bias lies there.
It probably doesn't benefit your paper from being anti-City but my own experience and that of countless others is that it is and frankly you are pissing in the wind by trying to say otherwise.

Occasionally offensive comments do slip through, especially at times when there are a high volume of comments being posted - they are often spotted by someone else on the wesbite operation, or are removed when flagged up by a reader.
There have been instances of offensive City posts getting through, as well as Utd ones.

As you say, you and many other City fans have had comments blocked down the years. I don't doubt it, but without seeing the posts I can't really say why that was.
But there have probably been an equal number of United posts blocked, for many of the same reasons - does that mean we are biased against United as well?
You might be right, I may be pissing in the wind, but only because you have decided what you think, and no amount of reason will make you think otherwise.
Next time you HEAR of someone having a post blocked, get them to save it and send it to me, and I'll assess it for you.
Quite often, what the poster feels is innocuous can be libellous.

I'm still waiting for facts. The sports editor is NOT a United fan, as I keep saying, and without hearing specifically what he is meant to bhave said which is offensive, I can't somment on that either.
I do know that once when I was on Talksport, I was very positive about City, and answered one question which related to City's standing in relation to United, which again I answered positively from a Blue point of view.
Next day, there was a poster on Blue Moon who said I had been invited on to talk about City and that I had turned the whole topic round to talk about United.
That is why I am sceptical, because people with a prejudice or an agenda only hear what they want to hear

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Has it been explained yet why the two pro-Tevez articles from last week had there comments blocked?

Which two pro-Tevez articles were they?
We have not run any "pro-Tevez" articles with regard to what he did in Munich.
If you mean articles which gave Tevez's point of view (a wholly different thing, and essential in a democracy), then the reason - as I have stated - was legal.
There is an ongoing legal matter between the MEN and Joorabchian (even though some people on here seem to think we are in his pocket), and we have to be careful what we say, and that includes allowing comments on the website.
You will find that ongoing court cases in the news section also have the "comments" link disabled, for similar reasons.

I was just wondering and it;s fair enough if it's down to legal reasons. My only issue with the Hughes story was, it was pitched to seem like Hughes was some kind of neutral third party, when in truth he is about as far from that as could be the case, seeing as he has an ongoing relationship with Joorabchian.