Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row, MuEN block comments

Welcome to Manchester said:
I remember him making a comment about it being "the only trophy you will ever see City win" when the groundsman won an award for the condition of the pitch at Maine Road.

I'm sorry, but either your memory is playing tricks on you, or that is downright lie.
Given that, the rest of your "FACTS" look a bit dodgy.
All of Spencer's appearances on Talksport over the summer are still on the Talksport website - just put Peter Spencer in the search.
Perhaps you want to listen to them and provide us with some real facts?
 
Re: Ex MCFC boss Mark Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row

stuart brennan said:
Seosa said:
So Brennan admits to never have wanted an OT Season Ticket, yet colours himself as a proud Rag.

How do I do that, exactly?

A very short time after you became the City respresentative for your paper, you did an interview with a Un*ted internet fanzine I believe where you quite clearly admitted your love for them but said you were going to get on with your new job "professionally but through gritted teeth."

Seeing as you've responded to my comment last night, can you respond to this please. Back in January on the eve of Transfer Deadline Day, there was a thread in the Transfer forum where a poster gave what he believed to be potential info regarding late interest in Matt Jarvis and I believe, Santi Cazorla. Simple, harmless, football forum rumours that came to nothing, yet they ended up in your paper the next day by your hand if I'm not mistaken. Truthfully speaking, did you write an article on the back of baseless internet rumours and if so, doesn't this surely question your journalistic abilities?
 
stuart brennan said:
Welcome to Manchester said:
I remember him making a comment about it being "the only trophy you will ever see City win" when the groundsman won an award for the condition of the pitch at Maine Road.

I'm sorry, but either your memory is playing tricks on you, or that is downright lie.
Given that, the rest of your "FACTS" look a bit dodgy.
All of Spencer's appearances on Talksport over the summer are still on the Talksport website - just put Peter Spencer in the search.
Perhaps you want to listen to them and provide us with some real facts?
Not sure but I heard about that story but it was on gmr, it was actually about the late great stan Gibson,s award that was stated that it was the only silverware city will ever win, it was mentioned on gmr last season by one of our fans who was disgruntled with men's attitude.
 
Re: Ex MCFC boss Mark Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row

Seosa said:
stuart brennan said:
Seosa said:
So Brennan admits to never have wanted an OT Season Ticket, yet colours himself as a proud Rag.

How do I do that, exactly?

A very short time after you became the City respresentative for your paper, you did an interview with a Un*ted internet fanzine I believe where you quite clearly admitted your love for them but said you were going to get on with your new job "professionally but through gritted teeth."

Seeing as you've responded to my comment last night, can you respond to this please. Back in January on the eve of Transfer Deadline Day, there was a thread in the Transfer forum where a poster gave what he believed to be potential info regarding late interest in Matt Jarvis and I believe, Santi Cazorla. Simple, harmless, football forum rumours that came to nothing, yet they ended up in your paper the next day by your hand if I'm not mistaken. Truthfully speaking, did you write an article on the back of baseless internet rumours and if so, doesn't this surely question your journalistic abilities?


The first part is utter crap. I have never done an interview with a United internet fanzine. It would still be out there on the internet if I had. Pray tell me which one it was, or even better, google it and show me up.
If I had been stupid enough to do an interview, I certainly wouldn't have said what you say - for a start, everyone who knows me knows about how my relationship with Utd has waned over the past 20 years, to the point where I no longer consider myself a United fan.
Why do you feel the need to just make stuff up to back up your argument?

As for the second bit, I was told about Jarvis by a contact - I can't remember where I got Cazorla from, buy it may have been from a Spanish reporter.
You have to think that sometimes, people who post stuff on here, may sometimes have contact with the same people I speak to - so if we have the same info, it is because of that, not because I am nicking it off Bluemoon.

We speak regularly to journos from across Europe, swapping information, and sometimes separating the wheat from the chaff, especially when you don't know the person, is difficult.
I have never picked up a story from Bluemoon, although, like some other journos, I come on to see what people are saying, and occasionally someone will post some credible information - but I always try to check it out first.
I honestly don't remember seeing Cazorla/Jarvis on here.
 
SuperKevinHorlock said:
Just the name Financial Fair Play makes me feel sick.
Its nothing but an exercise to maintain the status quo.
precisely - aimed at blocking Eastern European & Middle East investors but City are a prime target:
Financial fair play is merely a way to stifle City
By MARTIN SAMUEL
Last updated at 12:03 AM on 11th July 2011

Perhaps UEFA could be persuaded to rule on a fair price for Manchester City defender Jerome Boateng. Those guys seem to know the value of everything these days.
They know how much a stadium naming rights deal is worth at a club that may - or may not - be on the brink of becoming one of the most significant in Europe.
They know what a kit deal should mean to a team that may - or may not - be about to win Europe's richest domestic league.

Welcome to the Etihad Stadium: Manchester City struck a huge £400m deal to rename Eastlands last week
And they can put a precise price on a fledgling project involving transport infrastructure, retail and sports education in the Greater Manchester area that may - or may not - create a new and vibrant entrepreneurial hub to the east of the city.
Indeed, it is hard to imagine why we continue listening to those bozos who made such a pig's ear of judging the financial fortunes of the Mediterranean countries, when all the finest economic forecasters in Europe can be found hanging around Michel Platini's office in Nyon.
UEFA have announced they will look into Manchester City's £400million, 10-year sponsorship arrangement with Etihad Airways, to see if financial fair play rules have been contravened.

Squabble: City and Bayern Munich are in dispute over the transfer value of Jerome Boateng (left)
'Our experts will make assessments of fair value using benchmarks,' said a spokesman.
What benchmarks are these?
City are all about potential right now. They could be anything, or nothing. They could usurp Barcelona or end up in the Europa League next season. And there is no precedent for City as a major European force. What would be the going rate, were City to win the modern Champions League? Who knows? They have never even been in it before.
Yet there is already pressure over the Etihad deal from the old European elite, who feel threatened. They want the arrangement investigated because of very obvious links between Etihad and Manchester City. The airline is owned by the government of Abu Dhabi, whose ruler, Sheik Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan is the half brother of City's owner Sheik Mansour bin Zayed al Nahyan.


The claim is the figures have been artificially inflated to help City comply with UEFA's financial rules. And maybe they have; but so what? Business is about contacts. There are plenty of deals struck at a certain price because one side is playing a long game, hoping to do better down the line. A company might agree a significant discount to reel in a wealthy client; another might make a generous offer to establish a relationship and benefit in the future.
The microcosm is giving a busy tradesman a generous tip at first, in the hope of then being able to call on his services and time more regularly.
Clearly, these examples do not apply to Etihad and City, but they might apply to other major clubs in Europe and to a business that wanted a foot in the door at, say, Manchester United or Real Madrid.
What would UEFA do then? Ban their clubs from cutting a good deal? It will be interesting to see such restrictive measures tested in court. Bayern Munich chief executive Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, is believed to be among those protesting against the Manchester City deal behind the scenes, but he has vested interests on several fronts.
Right now, there is a significant rift between the clubs over Germany defender Boateng: Munich have offered £12m, City want nearer £20m. 'City demand a price which is not realistic,' Rummenigge says.
So now you see how it works. The big clubs want City's sponsorship by Etihad suppressed, but also wish to steal their players on the cheap. So City get gypped two ways - it is almost as if the clubs are scared of their capacity to generate money.
As chairman of the European Club Association, Rummenigge rarely misses a chance to raise an issue happily to Bayern Munich's advantage, and this is no exception. Not satisfied with Munich's immense wealth and standing in the domestic and European game - which will only be further cemented by the financial fair play rule - Rummenigge wishes to take out all interlopers, too.
City represent the greatest threat to that established order and, therefore, must be stopped.
Munich want a return to the days when the big clubs could just bully their way to a cheap deal. In Rummenigge's mind, City are impudent upstarts, their business unworthy of a £400m sponsorship, their players unworthy of a £20m bid; and UEFA are complicit in this arrogance.

Powerful enemy: Bayern Munich chief executive Karl-Heinz Rummenigge is no fan of City
From the start, financial fair play was only going to benefit the very wealthiest or the smallest clubs without ambition. Those looking to build, to grow, to succeed, were going to be stifled. So it is proving.
Munich do not want City to make money in the marketplace or in the transfer market, then they want their available funds to be fixed to income.
It is a shameful racket, but no doubt the economic gurus at UEFA will find a solution; they are so wise

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blumoonrisen said:
mcfc1632 said:
well that bluemoonrisen is a bit of a subjective tit for tat

was you calling me a twat there..?


No - in fact not at all...........

What I meant was that someone saying that there are loads of CITY fans that believe that the MEN is not balanced in its reporting is just as valid as someone saying that there are only a few - neither parties actually know at all.

Hence my comment that it is just a subjective point of view - both opinions are - and also why I suggested that it would be a good idea to get rid of the subjective tit for tat comments by getting some actual evidence - perhaps through a poll
 
mancunial said:
stuart brennan said:
Welcome to Manchester said:
I remember him making a comment about it being "the only trophy you will ever see City win" when the groundsman won an award for the condition of the pitch at Maine Road.

I'm sorry, but either your memory is playing tricks on you, or that is downright lie.
Given that, the rest of your "FACTS" look a bit dodgy.
All of Spencer's appearances on Talksport over the summer are still on the Talksport website - just put Peter Spencer in the search.
Perhaps you want to listen to them and provide us with some real facts?
Not sure but I heard about that story but it was on gmr, it was actually about the late great stan Gibson,s award that was stated that it was the only silverware city will ever win, it was mentioned on gmr last season by one of our fans who was disgruntled with men's attitude.

I looked this up and the "disgruntled" fan said it was Stuart Mathieson, our Utd reporter who said it.
I don't know if it's true - and let's face it, there have been plenty of exaggerations, baseless claims, half-truths and simple lies bysome posters on this thread -but Stuart said it, it would have been a bit of light-hearted banter from someone whose mum and dad are, or were until recently, City season ticket holders
 
mcfc1632 said:
blumoonrisen said:
mcfc1632 said:
well that bluemoonrisen is a bit of a subjective tit for tat

was you calling me a twat there..?


No - in fact not at all...........

What I meant was that someone saying that there are loads of CITY fans that believe that the MEN is not balanced in its reporting is just as valid as someone saying that there are only a few - neither parties actually know at all.

Hence my comment that it is just a subjective point of view - both opinions are - and also why I suggested that it would be a good idea to get rid of the subjective tit for tat comments by getting some actual evidence - perhaps through a poll

Yes.. I knew what you meant.

But since when would a BM poll represent the majority of blues..?
 
mcfc1632 said:
blumoonrisen said:
mcfc1632 said:
well that bluemoonrisen is a bit of a subjective tit for tat

was you calling me a twat there..?


No - in fact not at all...........

What I meant was that someone saying that there are loads of CITY fans that believe that the MEN is not balanced in its reporting is just as valid as someone saying that there are only a few - neither parties actually know at all.

Hence my comment that it is just a subjective point of view - both opinions are - and also why I suggested that it would be a good idea to get rid of the subjective tit for tat comments by getting some actual evidence - perhaps through a poll

Ah like the same sort of evidence that SB has been asking some muppets for who claim this,that and `tother happened,when evidently it didn`t.
Will have to use the word ALLEGEDLY,just in case it comes back to bite me arse !!!
 

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