Bluemoon115
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Bigga said:
The interview was given before the season had started, so what games was Hughes supposed to have seen?
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The interview was given before the season had started, so what games was Hughes supposed to have seen?
de niro said:Mike D said:Thats hardly a yeardstick to evaluate the season 3 games against relegation fodder, but at the same time I accpet we can only beat what is in front of you. Its to early days to start waxing the dolphin over where we are gonna finish but with the next 2 games coming up will be time to sort the wheat from the chaff
there you go, contradicting yourself, if its too early to form a good opinion of him why is not too early to slate as you have done from day one.
as i say, you are embarrassing yourself.
Is't it great how you pick on the minor points instead of the whole picture. I was refering to this season on its own not his whole tenure. I take it the dementia setting in then already De Niro or has last seasons debarcle just escaped your memory.
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Débâcle? Bit strong that. It was nothing of the sort.
The next two games won't prove anything, except about those two games.
The next two games won't prove anything, except about those two games.
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Bluemoon115 said:Bigga said:If loaning out a young player and ignoring him is what you lot think develops players, you're sadly deluded!! Who gives a sh*t what McLeish thinks if Hughes wants to check in on a player he loaned out? He's not breaking a law!
A phone call to say 'I saw some highlights of you/ my staff report back that you're doing well. Keep it up.' Who is ever to busy to make a 5 min phone call in a 7 day week?!!
Pathetic excuses!
The interview was given before the season had started, so what games was Hughes supposed to have seen?
Bigga has consistently ignored every decent and valid argument put before him in this thread...I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for an answer to that question...
squirtyflower
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it certainly wasn'tBrucie Bonus said:Débâcle? Bit strong that. It was nothing of the sort.
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Mike D said:de niro said:there you go, contradicting yourself, if its too early to form a good opinion of him why is not too early to slate as you have done from day one.
as i say, you are embarrassing yourself.
Is't it great how you pick on the minor points instead of the whole picture. I was refering to this season on its own not his whole tenure. I take it the dementia setting in then already De Niro or has last seasons debarcle just escaped your memory.
from where i was stood i saw a rebuilding projet get off the floor, then again i am a blue.
bizzbo
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de niro said:Mike D said:Is't it great how you pick on the minor points instead of the whole picture. I was refering to this season on its own not his whole tenure. I take it the dementia setting in then already De Niro or has last seasons debarcle just escaped your memory.
from where i was stood i saw a rebuilding projet get off the floor, then again i am a blue.
It certainly looks that way now. If I was sceptical at the time, it was because I could not see how Hughes could push through all the changes needed to make us top 4 material in one summer. Now we wait and see. If we are the real deal, then the high-handed approach that, at the time, left a bad taste in the mouth and was a cause for concern, will have been justified.
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I am not getting dragged back into this thread again but please can we knock the 'rebuilding stuff on the head.
If you take an eigth place team with an at least average Premier league squad, spend £100m on it, finish in a lower position, with lower points, then branding it 'rebuilding' is the most genorous description you can give and pushing it a lot.
Going on that basis then any team who has not spent millions of pounds on some brilliant players and loads more on various stuff at the club could ever be expected to achieve a decent Premier League season.
The rewriting of history and the ease with which some now reel off that the club was a shambles before last season, is staggering.
I'll only accept that claim if your definition of a shambles is "on a par with other clubs outside of the top four".
I am quite happy to see what Hughes does now but the spin put on the state of the club pre takeover is an absolute insult to the majority of football managers who have to deal with clubs whose permanent states are well below the level that Manchester City was in pre takeover (although I will grant that the presence of a tyranical wanker politician was something that did the club a great disservice - but that isn't what people are talking about when they rewrite history with the 'shambles' claim)
They seem to suggest that a team that has finished the previous season in awful form will automatically play the next season in the same manner. In which case I am surprised that they weren't at the front of the queue calling for Hughes to go this season - seeing as their theory of how a club can be expected to perform after poor form would automatically make this season a poor one, given that last season was also dogged by terrible form.
That, of course, would be ridiculous, but if you are willing to say that a few months of bad results in 07/08 means Hughes (even with £100m) had no chance in 08/09, then it must follow that you'd think this season, following another disapointing and disjointed season, would also follow that rule.
If you take an eigth place team with an at least average Premier league squad, spend £100m on it, finish in a lower position, with lower points, then branding it 'rebuilding' is the most genorous description you can give and pushing it a lot.
Going on that basis then any team who has not spent millions of pounds on some brilliant players and loads more on various stuff at the club could ever be expected to achieve a decent Premier League season.
The rewriting of history and the ease with which some now reel off that the club was a shambles before last season, is staggering.
I'll only accept that claim if your definition of a shambles is "on a par with other clubs outside of the top four".
I am quite happy to see what Hughes does now but the spin put on the state of the club pre takeover is an absolute insult to the majority of football managers who have to deal with clubs whose permanent states are well below the level that Manchester City was in pre takeover (although I will grant that the presence of a tyranical wanker politician was something that did the club a great disservice - but that isn't what people are talking about when they rewrite history with the 'shambles' claim)
They seem to suggest that a team that has finished the previous season in awful form will automatically play the next season in the same manner. In which case I am surprised that they weren't at the front of the queue calling for Hughes to go this season - seeing as their theory of how a club can be expected to perform after poor form would automatically make this season a poor one, given that last season was also dogged by terrible form.
That, of course, would be ridiculous, but if you are willing to say that a few months of bad results in 07/08 means Hughes (even with £100m) had no chance in 08/09, then it must follow that you'd think this season, following another disapointing and disjointed season, would also follow that rule.
Bigga
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BillyShears said:Bluemoon115 said:The interview was given before the season had started, so what games was Hughes supposed to have seen?
Bigga has consistently ignored every decent and valid argument put before him in this thread...I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for an answer to that question...
Because I have a child suspected of having Swine Flu to tend to, you moron. I'm not going to be on every minute of the day.
As for the interview, fine, it was given before the season. So ask yourself what has irked Hart so much that he needed to say it? He could've just as easily not than put whatever 'future' he has at the club in question. Petrov has spoken out and he's still at the club!!
Instead of trying ridicule, look for the actual things that concern young players Nedum, for example, is lucky. He was dropped without foundation in favour of Tal-Haim but battled back in. Talent saw that through. Yet talent should have kept him in the side in the first place. Now he's back to square one. Do you think his good manners will see him sat on the bench for the next couple of years?
If good young players speak out, something has aggrieved them, surely?
Manford
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de niro said:Mike D said:MH has taken us no further than under Sven.
ay alright mike, yeh mate, spot on post.
fucking frightening.
Mike, does the D stand for Deluded?
If you think that then god help us.