Hull (a) Post Match Thread

Withnail said:
Not had chance to post since the match ended, but great result albeit not the best performance. I thought overall Otamendi was excellent and others have mentioned Yaya was superb controlling the midfield and keeping the ball moving.

One criticism is we need to move the ball quicker and look to shoot more rather than try and create the perfect goal. But onwards and upwards a win is a win
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Interesting comment. I was watching the game with a friend who used to play for Sunderland some years ago and he made similar comments about our lack of shooting rather than trying to pass the ball in. I cant think of many long range efforts this season. Doubtless I will be corrected.

Interest to hear what people think about our (proper) shots on goal from range.
 
johnnytapia said:
Give your selective use of stats a rest too. The 2012 Mancini team put every single team, bar Sunderland, to the sword. Often twice. And often convincingly. Home and Away. There’s nothing “straw man” about it. Facts. Plain and simple.
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Seeing as you're yet again failing to understand the (someone else's) point then the last three words sum you up.
 
In fairness, despite beating nearly all the smaller teams in 2011-12, there were still a few nervy endings (3-2 at QPR and Bolton), plus a 2-0 lead sacrificed at Fulham. I can also recall City hanging on at Villa and Wigan, plus a last minute defeat at relegation threatened Sunderland.
We tended to win, but as SWP alludes, we didn't always thrash teams.

In contrast, last night was slightly flattering, and it seemed to help us when Hull grew in confidence and started ro drift from their game plan. However, in the mists of time, it will be remembered as a routine victory.
 
Not a very good performance, still slow it down when we have a chance of a quick counter attack. The main thing is that we still won the game against Hull, especially as Chelsea won earlier in the day, to keep the gap to 7pts.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
In fairness, despite beating nearly all the smaller teams in 2011-12, there were still a few nervy endings (3-2 at QPR and Bolton), plus a 2-0 lead sacrificed at Fulham. I can also recall City hanging on at Villa and Wigan, plus a last minute defeat at relegation threatened Sunderland.
We tended to win, but as SWP alludes, we didn't always thrash teams.

In contrast, last night was slightly flattering, and it seemed to help us when Hull grew in confidence and started ro drift from their game plan. However, in the mists of time, it will be remembered as a routine victory.
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IMHO our football in the first season under Pellegrini so far has been our best. Scoring for fun as well. But I'm getting sick and tired from these comparisons. It's in the (distant) past and it serves good memories. Leave it at that and discuss the present and future. Much more interesting.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Like the time we headed into the final game of the season needing three points for the title and we found ourselves 2-1 down against relegation candidates QPR going into stoppage time?

Or the time we thrashed Blackpool 3-2 with a late winner from Silva?

What about that same season where we drew 0-0 with Birmingham?

The 1-0 drubbing in the home game against Blackpool?

Our 2-1 loss against and 4-3 destruction of a Wolves team who narrowly avoided relegation?

2-2 against Birmingham?

Our 3-2 thrashing of Bolton?

1-0 against Reading courtesy of a 93rd minute goal from Gareth Barry?

The 0-0 demolition of QPR?

The 1-0 annihilation of Wigan with a Tevez goal in the 83rd minute?

These matches were all against teams who were comparable to Hull as they finished in the bottom three with the exception of Wolves in 2011 and QPR in 2012, both of whom finished in 17th.

I love Mancini for winning the title with us but I stick by what I said previously. He never transformed us into a team who routinely thrashed weak opposition.
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I take it you didn't contribute to

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eversince 76 said:
IMHO our football in the first season under Pellegrini so far has been our best. Scoring for fun as well. But I'm getting sick and tired from these comparisons. It's in the (distant) past and it serves good memories. Leave it at that and discuss the present and future. Much more interesting.
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So you don't like comparisons, but you'll make one anyway?
A slightly contradictory post mate, but in essence, I was only dipping my toe into somebody else's argument.

I agree with your last comment though. The Liverpool game is all that matters for the moment.
 
Just watched the highlights on the OS (didn't bother with MOTD and I don't have Sky). Loved Kev pointing and telling Kel to get on his bike before he passed to Merlin in the lead up to the 2nd goal.
 
Vic said:
I take it you didn't contribute to

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I absolutely love Mancini and, as a City fan, he will always be welcome round mine for a cup of tea. I just don't subscribe to the kind of mind numbing nostalgia which airbrushes the imperfections and leaves you feeling needlessly disappointed, impossible to please and ultimately bitter.

Anyway, I've said my piece so I'll leave you guys to it in the knowledge that at least one person understood the point.
 
IWasHere said:
I love silva but for me Yaya's our best ever player, I doubt we'll see anyone as good as him for a while
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If you judge the best player by his on field antics , then Yaya is right up there but you have to consider the overall impact a player has on a club on field and off field making the headlines for all the right reasons and how he represent the club . So i would put Merlin alongside Colin Bell i couldnt choose between them , a magician and a King on the field of play and both Princes off the field . Yaya has brought too many embarrassing headlines and dragged the clubs name through the mud too many times thanks to his agent , so he will be considered a great City player , but never the best for me.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
If you judge the best player by his on field antics , then Yaya is right up there but you have to consider the overall impact a player has on a club on field and off field making the headlines for all the right reasons and how he represent the club . So i would put Merlin alongside Colin Bell i couldnt choose between them , a magician and a King on the field of play and both Princes off the field . Yaya has brought too many embarrassing headlines and dragged the clubs name through the mud too many times thanks to his agent , so he will be considered a great City player , but never the best for me.
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THE most influential PLAYER since Colin Bell.

Times & society have changed,which doesn't excuse Yaya / Seluc some of the unecessary shitstorms,but it's reputed that he & Kolo donate half their earnings to their Foundation in Cote de Ivorie.

Yaya Toure....The Power & The Glory !!
 
BlueAnorak said:
Pretty much as I saw it. We really have to cut out the Tiki-Taka crap when we aren't 2 or 3 goals up.
Run at the opposition. Get behind them. Punish them.
Need to improve our counter attack speed to have a chance of the title.
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The speed of the counter is not a problem. It's the stopping on the edge of the opposition area and
then passing it all the way back to Bravo.
 
All those saying tic a tac rubbish in the first half need to try and understand what that does to teams. Hull chased and harried us throughout the first half and this tired them, they came out second half and tried to take the initiative but soon ran out of energy and we picked them off
 
kinkyblue said:
All those saying tic a tac rubbish in the first half need to try and understand what that does to teams. Hull chased and harried us throughout the first half and this tired them, they came out second half and tried to take the initiative but soon ran out of energy and we picked them off
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Ok saying that but it gives the other team time to get 11 behind the ball and the chance to gain possession and counter quickly...see what Chelski did to us with decent strikers
 
kashmir said:
Ok saying that but it gives the other team time to get 11 behind the ball and the chance to gain possession and counter quickly...see what Chelski did to us with decent strikers
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Can't legislate for players missing golden opportunities though, we all know we should have won that game
 
MadchesterCity said:
rubbish mate was a huge goal keeping error
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The debate about Bravo can rumble on and nobody's ever going to agree, however, the highlights show him coming for the ball and being blocked by Mbokani. He actually has a look over his shoulder, sees him coming and moves to obstruct him. Granted these things are part of the game nowadays and it's unlikely a foul would be given, even if the ref spotted it, but Bravo can't predict when that's going to happen, nor can he adjust his game for it, otherwise he'll end up rooted to his line.
Keepers sometimes get defenders out of the s**t and sometimes it's the other way around. Provided the ball stays out of the net, it's all good. If a keeper looks assertive and calm but ships goals, would you rather have him than one who makes you nervous but keeps them out? Remember, just because you feel nervous, doesn't mean he or the back four do.
 
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