Humans, a really shit species

[Bill Walker]

Pfft dolphins say hi, I take it you never watched flipper

Always outdone by Skippy.

 

[Bill Walker]

There is so much wrong with the OP that it's fairly pointless in trying to debate it.

As i said, if the OP feels so strongly about the human race he can take the lead in the race to its extinction.

No other animals are destroying planet Earth.
Every day billions of engines fire up polluting the air, nobody gives a shit.
Oil and chemicals are released into our Oceans and rivers killing species of fish and marine life, nobody gives a shit.
Money is more important.
And that's before we get to wars.

 

[bugsyblue]

In light of recent happenings nearer home at sea, plus all the wars kicking off at the moment, pollution, hunger/starvation, poverty, disease...we really are a shit species, we've ruined in a couple of hundred year or less....., what once was a pretty decent planet, it's going to be fucked shortly and hopefully we go first.


End of rant. As you were !!

The earth will 100% outlive us by a long long way. We are monkeys who learned how to make fire… that’s it. We make the same mistake over and over and are still slaves to our emotions. If aliens do exist they visit us as an intergalactic safari trip.

 

[Franny 1234]

PSG tonight have restored my faith in Humans. Hopefully Newcastle will do the same this weekend too.

 

[pee dubya]

We're not destroying the Earth, we're changing it and probably to a set of conditions that are less favourable for ourselves.

Like yeast when you brew, you create the perfect conditions for the yeast to grow and be active, then they either run out of sugar or produce so much alcohol that they can't survive.

We're doing a similar kind of thing really, it's a pattern that is constantly repeated in nature.

 

[mscenterh750]

50% of humans have cunts ,or so I am led to believe.

Might be more might be less than 50% if you take into account how people decide what to identify as in society nowadays. Male, female, tree, animal, sandwich could be fucking anything.

 

[talkativesprout]

We're not destroying the Earth, we're changing it and probably to a set of conditions that are less favourable for ourselves.

Like yeast when you brew, you create the perfect conditions for the yeast to grow and be active, then they either run out of sugar or produce so much alcohol that they can't survive.

We're doing a similar kind of thing really, it's a pattern that is constantly repeated in nature.

Good analogy
It does survive your doomsday prediction though

Yeast will end up after fermentation

1. Dead: Lying on the bottom of the vessel.
2. "Flocculated": Dormant, but clumped together into a big enough blob that that they fall to the bottom of the vessel.
3. In Suspension: Floating freely in the wort, still ready to eat any sugars they run into.

 

[Bill Walker]

We're not destroying the Earth,

Monumental amount of noxious gases produced every day. Only a very recent thing in the million years of Earth's life.

Plastic floating islands in our Oceans. Ozone layer slowly being destroyed. Species becoming extinct.

Millions of tons of landfill produced every day.

Imagine how many million tons of carbon the new swamp will create. Endless huge diesel trucks, cranes, giant earth moving machines.

All for profit for the few. Not for us.

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

Just picked up a very informative book about sparrows. Apparently the communist party of China in1958 ordered that all sparrows were killed as they were "pests". The rural population set about the task in every way they could and hundreds of millions of sparrows were irradicated.
The following year harvests across China failed resulting in the Great Chinese famine of 1959 -61 with an estimated 25-40 million people starving to death. Hasty research showed that tree sparrows ate far more insect pests than grain, including locusts, whose numbers soared as a result of drastic reduction of their predators.
We humans can be so stupid.

Do you really believe that the famine was due to sparrows, rather than drought? You need to consider that there are many other species of birds in rural areas. While it might be relatively easy to catch sparrows in urban areas, how would you go about capturing them in the mountains? People in that era lacked the advanced technology to effectively kill birds across vast wild areas. And it is certain that there must have been significant overreporting regarding the number of sparrows killed. I don't believe sparrows were that important.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

If all insects on Earth disappeared, within 50 years all life on Earth would end.

If all human beings disappeared from the Earth, within 50 years all forms of life would flourish.

Jonas Salk, biologist

Not sure I know if he’s right or wrong, but I don’t think these are the worst of times, by far!

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

Just picked up a very informative book about sparrows. Apparently the communist party of China in1958 ordered that all sparrows were killed as they were "pests". The rural population set about the task in every way they could and hundreds of millions of sparrows were irradicated.
The following year harvests across China failed resulting in the Great Chinese famine of 1959 -61 with an estimated 25-40 million people starving to death. Hasty research showed that tree sparrows ate far more insect pests than grain, including locusts, whose numbers soared as a result of drastic reduction of their predators.
We humans can be so stupid.

And the figure of 25 to 40 million people is highly questionable. An example, during the 8 year War of Resistance against Japan（1937-1945）, the total number of military and civilian deaths in China was approximately 35 million. Do you really believe that an equal number of people starved to death in only 3 years?

 

[Bill Walker]

If all insects on Earth disappeared, within 50 years all life on Earth would end.

If all human beings disappeared from the Earth, within 50 years all forms of life would flourish.

Jonas Salk, biologist

Not sure I know if he’s right or wrong, but I don’t think these are the worst of times, by far!

It's all those thousands of sodding aircraft polluting the skies....:)

 

[pee dubya]

Monumental amount of noxious gases produced every day. Only a very recent thing in the million years of Earth's life.

Plastic floating islands in our Oceans. Ozone layer slowly being destroyed. Species becoming extinct.

Millions of tons of landfill produced every day.

Imagine how many million tons of carbon the new swamp will create. Endless huge diesel trucks, cranes, giant earth moving machines.

All for profit for the few. Not for us.

All bad things, but I'd say that's damage, not destruction which are slightly different things.

I'm pretty sure we'd go extinct before all other lifeforms do, after which nature would recover, albeit in a different form to before.

What we are at risk of doing is destroying the Earth for ourselves. Which is pretty dumb, because we don't have to.

 

[shemnel]

And the figure of 25 to 40 million people is highly questionable. An example, during the 8 year War of Resistance against Japan（1937-1945）, the total number of military and civilian deaths in China was approximately 35 million. Do you really believe that an equal number of people starved to death in only 3 years?

do you believe that ~1m people died in Ireland in the famine of the late 1840s?

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

do you believe that ~1m people died in Ireland in the famine of the late 1840s?

Not good at european history..No idea.

 

[shemnel]

Not good at european history..No idea.

fair enough, i was using it as a comparator of catastrophic crop failure (potato) in a system reliant on one crop (equiv. rice) that killed ~12% of a population (and made 12% migrate) in a few years. I can easily see how 25m of 650m died in a 3 or 4 year famine in China following some disastrous home policy decisions. Furthermore it would appear some of the Chinese famine death estimates are from Central Party or the statistics board, as well as Europeans. It only takes one or two failed crops and a society (and a more insular one at that) is in the shit. Unsure why you think 3 or 4 years is a short time for huge famine effects.

 

[Deleted member 10327]

Saw one of them Christmas lectures on the tv years ago.
The scientist stated to maintain the North America way of life we need the resources of 5 Earths. And 3 for Europe.

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

fair enough, i was using it as a comparator of catastrophic crop failure (potato) in a system reliant on one crop (equiv. rice) that killed ~12% of a population (and made 12% migrate) in a few years. I can easily see how 25m of 650m died in a 3 or 4 year famine in China following some disastrous home policy decisions. Furthermore it would appear some of the Chinese famine death estimates are from Central Party or the statistics board, as well as Europeans. It only takes one or two failed crops and a society (and a more insular one at that) is in the shit. Unsure why you think 3 or 4 years is a short time for huge famine effects.

During that period, it was quite common for a family to have 5 to 6 children. Almost every family had more than 4 children. It was actually a time of rapid population growth. On one hand, there was a rapid population increase due to the baby boom, and on the other hand, it was claimed that "everyone was starving to death," which is hard to explain. Simply put, 99.99% of the people you meet in your life do not have such memories. If someone tells you that "everything happened in a distant place you couldn't see," I find that unconvincing. Another reason is that estimating the number of deaths based on macro demographic statistics inherently assumes that the number of deaths and statistical errors are at a roughly similar level. But in reality, I believe the true numbers would be lost in the statistical margin of error. Such estimates are essentially meaningless. （For example, how do you know that the decline starting in 1959 wasn't due to overcounting between 1955 and 1958? This decline might simply be a return to normal levels.）

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

fair enough, i was using it as a comparator of catastrophic crop failure (potato) in a system reliant on one crop (equiv. rice) that killed ~12% of a population (and made 12% migrate) in a few years. I can easily see how 25m of 650m died in a 3 or 4 year famine in China following some disastrous home policy decisions. Furthermore it would appear some of the Chinese famine death estimates are from Central Party or the statistics board, as well as Europeans. It only takes one or two failed crops and a society (and a more insular one at that) is in the shit. Unsure why you think 3 or 4 years is a short time for huge famine effects.

I can tell you one more thing: the data we find more credible ranges from 2.5 to 3 million. To be precise, these deaths were caused by various diseases due to malnutrition, rather than directly from starvation. Most elderly people recall that period as "eat millet and corn everyday（we prefer rice）," rather than "a lot of people around were starving to death."

 

[lefty goldblatt]

Dolphins are actually serial rapists and drug abusers. Not even joking.

.....and are the only species that can fully understand Spitty Carragher's high pitched ramblings