Huw Edwards - 6 month suspended sentence (pg 107)

[west didsblue]

It's the world we live in and like it or not there is no moral high ground to be taken. Are unproven rumours about Trump ok to print? What about Partygate? What about Matt Hancock being caught grabbing his girlfriends bum on CCTV? And worst of all, what about the concerted press effort (from all papers) to destroy Jeremy Corbyn? A couple of other points, The Sun did not print 'the name' most of us however went to the trouble to find out 'the name' ourselves so are we worse than the Sun? One final point, in his worst moments Huw Edwards found out who his real friends at the BBC were, "I'm Spartacus" it certainly was NOT. So much for all those internal team building days!

The vast majority of what is printed and reported on about Trump is supported by almost incontrovertible evidence, usually from what he’s publicly said, done, tweeted or been proven in court.
Partygate was lawbreaking on work premises as proven by the acceptance of FPNs and the Sue Grey/Privileges Committee investigations.
Matt Hancock’s groping was also lawbreaking on work premises which he admitted.

No one has suggested (yet) that Edwards did anything illegal at work or even at home.
You need to find a better comparison.

The ones that spring to mind were the Camillagate and Squidgygate recordings where the current King, Queen and late Princess of Wales had their reputations trashed for something not illegal. Two out of three of them recovered and returned to public life.

 

[Mon Autre]

If that’s the case I’ve no sympathy for either of them but the collateral damage here is a kid who got his hands on a substantial amount of money and developed a very expensive and damaging drug habit, Edwards is an absolute wanker.

1) We don't even know if the bit about the drugs or the amounts of money are true. We know other parts of the estranged parent's account aren't true so I don't think we can trust the bit about them being on crack is either.

2) Even if they were on crack we don't know how or why that happened. It could have been before they even had any contact with Huw Edwards. Maybe the parents ought to ask themselves how their teenager became estranged from them and on crack? Probably a lot more to do with them than anyone else.

3) How that person spends their money isn't on the person that gave it to them unless they've explicitly said "I'm going buy to drugs with it". It doesn't make Huw Edwards a wanker. If the person involved had used the money to open an orphanage I doubt we'd be saying it made Huw Edwards an angel either.

4) Are City to blame for Kyle Walker spending the vast quantities of cash we pay him on sex workers?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is a case of parents finding out their son is gay, kicking them out, making all kinds of assumptions about their lifestyle and then going nuclear when they find their OnlyFans account or something. Lots of speculation there but I think it's safe to say they definitely aren't reliable witnesses and the fact they went to The Sun shows they probably aren't acting the interests of their child either.

 

[Kippaxpete]

Who's defending the sun?

No-one (I hope). If I understand the poster correctly, he's simply drawing attention to the faux outrage expressed by the hacks working for that disgusting rag (and some on this thread) and the sheer hypocrisy of their position given its morally bankrupt track record.

 

[splinter]

He's an overpaid nonce like the lot of them at the bbc

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I'm angry how common folk get taken in by the likes of The Sun, GB News and all the other scum media.

Poor "common folk".

 

[hammocity]

1) We don't even know if the bit about the drugs or the amounts of money are true. We know other parts of the estranged parent's account aren't true so I don't think we can trust the bit about them being on crack is either.

2) Even if they were on crack we don't know how or why that happened. It could have been before they even had any contact with Huw Edwards. Maybe the parents ought to ask themselves how their teenager became estranged from them and on crack? Probably a lot more to do with them than anyone else.

3) How that person spends their money isn't on the person that gave it to them unless they've explicitly said "I'm going buy to drugs with it". It doesn't make Huw Edwards a wanker. If the person involved had used the money to open an orphanage I doubt we'd be saying it made Huw Edwards an angel either.

4) Are City to blame for Kyle Walker spending the vast quantities of cash we pay him on sex workers?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is a case of parents finding out their son is gay, kicking them out, making all kinds of assumptions about their lifestyle and then going nuclear when they find their OnlyFans account or something. Lots of speculation there but I think it's safe to say they definitely aren't reliable witnesses and the fact they went to The Sun shows they probably aren't acting the interests of their child either.

“Doesn’t make Edwards a wanker” I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what the images were for.

Ref point 4, I don’t condone Walker’s actions especially as he did that illegally during lockdown, don’t see your point there.

 

[Blue and true]

It's the world we live in and like it or not there is no moral high ground to be taken. Are unproven rumours about Trump ok to print? What about Partygate? What about Matt Hancock being caught grabbing his girlfriends bum on CCTV? And worst of all, what about the concerted press effort (from all papers) to destroy Jeremy Corbyn? A couple of other points, The Sun did not print 'the name' most of us however went to the trouble to find out 'the name' ourselves so are we worse than the Sun? One final point, in his worst moments Huw Edwards found out who his real friends at the BBC were, "I'm Spartacus" it certainly was NOT. So much for all those internal team building days!

Et tu, Brute!? Indeed. It's cutthroat at the top.

 

[ganganvince]

1) We don't even know if the bit about the drugs or the amounts of money are true. We know other parts of the estranged parent's account aren't true so I don't think we can trust the bit about them being on crack is either.

2) Even if they were on crack we don't know how or why that happened. It could have been before they even had any contact with Huw Edwards. Maybe the parents ought to ask themselves how their teenager became estranged from them and on crack? Probably a lot more to do with them than anyone else.

3) How that person spends their money isn't on the person that gave it to them unless they've explicitly said "I'm going buy to drugs with it". It doesn't make Huw Edwards a wanker. If the person involved had used the money to open an orphanage I doubt we'd be saying it made Huw Edwards an angel either.

4) Are City to blame for Kyle Walker spending the vast quantities of cash we pay him on sex workers?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is a case of parents finding out their son is gay, kicking them out, making all kinds of assumptions about their lifestyle and then going nuclear when they find their OnlyFans account or something. Lots of speculation there but I think it's safe to say they definitely aren't reliable witnesses and the fact they went to The Sun shows they probably aren't acting the interests of their child either.

Hearsay is not admissible as evidence unsure as to why its allowable and to a certain extent taken as gospel in this.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

It's the world we live in and like it or not there is no moral high ground to be taken. Are unproven rumours about Trump ok to print? What about Partygate? What about Matt Hancock being caught grabbing his girlfriends bum on CCTV? And worst of all, what about the concerted press effort (from all papers) to destroy Jeremy Corbyn? A couple of other points, The Sun did not print 'the name' most of us however went to the trouble to find out 'the name' ourselves so are we worse than the Sun? One final point, in his worst moments Huw Edwards found out who his real friends at the BBC were, "I'm Spartacus" it certainly was NOT. So much for all those internal team building days!

One certainly wonders why they all turned into "Shaggy" so quickly.

 

[Mon Autre]

“Doesn’t make Edwards a wanker” I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what the images were for.

Ref point 4, I don’t condone Walker’s actions especially as he did that illegally during lockdown, don’t see your point there.

My point is you're holding Edwards responsible for how the person he purchased images from spent their money. So are you holding City responsible for how Kyle Walker spends his money?