I Believe in Miracles (film about Nottingham Forest)

[mat]

Brian Clough one of my favourite managers of all time .
This man was a genius what he did at Derby and Nottingham Forrest .
With a lot of help from Peter Taylor .
It's a shame Clough and Taylor never got the chance to manage England.

If they had England would still be world beaters following their footballing philosophy. Cloughie was too much of his own man for the FA. He once said if he got it he'd have revolutionised football as well as The FA. Something they still don't want.

 

[baildon blue]

If they had England would still be world beaters following their footballing philosophy. Cloughie was too much of his own man for the FA. He once said if he got it he'd have revolutionised football as well as The FA. Something they still don't want.

That's the trouble with the F.A .
Enjoyed that film about Nottingham Forrest last night .

 

[chaddblue]

Kenny Burns was hilarious !

 

[big phil]

Going off at a slight tangent, possibly the best football book I've ever read is about Cloughie, called 'provided you don't kiss me' by Duncan Hamilton. Beautifully written from a very close up perspective whilst still being largely objective it gets behind the public image of a man whose image was carefully managed. You won't regret buying it.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Going off at a slight tangent, possibly the best football book I've ever read is about Cloughie, called 'provided you don't kiss me' by Duncan Hamilton. Beautifully written from a very close up perspective whilst still being largely objective it gets behind the public image of a man whose image was carefully managed. You won't regret buying it.

It is a fantastic book.
One of the best footy books ive read.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

So what was the deal with cough in the end I mean he was manager as they got relegated from the premier?

 

[2sheikhs]

He'd been out of the loop for too long and alcohol had taken a heavy hit on him.

 

[pace89]

So what was the deal with cough in the end I mean he was manager as they got relegated from the premier?

During the season Clough used to prioritise working with the ball over fitness and this worked a treat in the 60s and 70s. To make they way they played work they'd pass the ball around the back give it to Shilton and he'd launch it up the pitch. That way everyone got a breather. 92/93 was the first season after the backpass rule was changed and it meant that the Forrest players couldn't do this anymore. The games were too quick for them and they couldn't adapt the system. Basically they got out ran.

There were lots of other things going on behind the scenes as well. Clough wasn't sober for much of the time, stuff about bungs was coming to the fore and football tactics were evolving as they always have done. In the end he couldn't change.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

During the season Clough used to prioritise working with the ball over fitness and this worked a treat in the 60s and 70s. To make they way they played work they'd pass the ball around the back give it to Shilton and he'd launch it up the pitch. That way everyone got a breather. 92/93 was the first season after the backpass rule was changed and it meant that the Forrest players couldn't do this anymore. The games were too quick for them and they couldn't adapt the system. Basically they got out ran.

There were lots of other things going on behind the scenes as well. Clough wasn't sober for much of the time, stuff about bungs was coming to the fore and football tactics were evolving as they always have done. In the end he couldn't change.

Cheers for that mate. So basically football evolved and he couldn't move with it as drink was taking its toll. It seems time and changing tactics run a lot of people out of football in the end

 

[big phil]

Cheers for that mate. So basically football evolved and he couldn't move with it as drink was taking its toll. It seems time and changing tactics run a lot of people out of football in the end

Spot on BB. Reading various books he'd always liked a drink but it overtook him in the end sadly. However he was an absolute genius of that era (think mourinho, times it by ten, add charisma, charm and people skills). Pretty good striker before injury finished his career too. 251 goals in 274 games would be £100m territory these days.