I Believe in Miracles (film about Nottingham Forest)

I was always under the impression Forest were the only British team to retain the European Cup but I'm reliably informed Liverpool did too. Is he the only English manager to do it or is the plaudit that it hasn't been done since? Slightly before my time but I vaugely remember Clough as a real character. The kind of manager to be interviewed by Terry Wogan.
 
I was always under the impression Forest were the only British team to retain the European Cup but I'm reliably informed Liverpool did too. Is he the only English manager to do it or is the plaudit that it hasn't been done since? Slightly before my time but I vaugely remember Clough as a real character. The kind of manager to be interviewed by Terry Wogan.
Bob Paisley did it in 77&78
 
Clough was a fantastic manager without doubt, however without Taylor he did very little ( a bit like mercer and Allison they did nothing much when apart ) also the derby team ( backed by Sam longson - the peak district abramovic !) and forest teams cost quite a few quid . Shilton was a world record fee for a keeper, Francis 1st million pound player plus others & several British record fees spent at derby .
 
Clough was a fantastic manager without doubt, however without Taylor he did very little ( a bit like mercer and Allison they did nothing much when apart ) also the derby team ( backed by Sam longson - the peak district abramovic !) and forest teams cost quite a few quid . Shilton was a world record fee for a keeper, Francis 1st million pound player plus others & several British record fees spent at derby .

But Forest bought Shilton and Francis on the back of the success Clough - and Taylor - brought them.

Cloughie states in his autobiography that Taylor was great at spotting talented players that would suit the style of football they wanted to play. It was Taylor's suggestion that Clough go all out to lure Dave Mackey to Derby from Spurs when Mackey was on the brink of joining Hearts.
 
I was at the game in 79 when we won 1-0 at Maine Road (Kazi Deyna) and first time they had been beat all season I think. The ground went mad!
Afterwards I was on the corner of Maine Road / Claremont Road as the Forest coach left the ground..... I was aged 16 and awestruck at being so close to Brian Clough, sat at the front

I was at that game and fell a bit in love with the great man that day. Hence the (misspelt) user name
 
Clough was a fantastic manager without doubt, however without Taylor he did very little ( a bit like mercer and Allison they did nothing much when apart ) also the derby team ( backed by Sam longson - the peak district abramovic !) and forest teams cost quite a few quid . Shilton was a world record fee for a keeper, Francis 1st million pound player plus others & several British record fees spent at derby .
Shilton was the only big money signing in the team that came up & won the League,the rest were bought for next to nothing,Francis came later....
 
Brian Clough one of my favourite managers of all time .
This man was a genius what he did at Derby and Nottingham Forrest .
With a lot of help from Peter Taylor .
It's a shame Clough and Taylor never got the chance to manage England.
 
Brian Clough one of my favourite managers of all time .
This man was a genius what he did at Derby and Nottingham Forrest .
With a lot of help from Peter Taylor .
It's a shame Clough and Taylor never got the chance to manage England.
If they had England would still be world beaters following their footballing philosophy. Cloughie was too much of his own man for the FA. He once said if he got it he'd have revolutionised football as well as The FA. Something they still don't want.
 
If they had England would still be world beaters following their footballing philosophy. Cloughie was too much of his own man for the FA. He once said if he got it he'd have revolutionised football as well as The FA. Something they still don't want.
That's the trouble with the F.A .
Enjoyed that film about Nottingham Forrest last night .
 
Going off at a slight tangent, possibly the best football book I've ever read is about Cloughie, called 'provided you don't kiss me' by Duncan Hamilton. Beautifully written from a very close up perspective whilst still being largely objective it gets behind the public image of a man whose image was carefully managed. You won't regret buying it.
 
Going off at a slight tangent, possibly the best football book I've ever read is about Cloughie, called 'provided you don't kiss me' by Duncan Hamilton. Beautifully written from a very close up perspective whilst still being largely objective it gets behind the public image of a man whose image was carefully managed. You won't regret buying it.

It is a fantastic book.
One of the best footy books ive read.
 
So what was the deal with cough in the end I mean he was manager as they got relegated from the premier?

During the season Clough used to prioritise working with the ball over fitness and this worked a treat in the 60s and 70s. To make they way they played work they'd pass the ball around the back give it to Shilton and he'd launch it up the pitch. That way everyone got a breather. 92/93 was the first season after the backpass rule was changed and it meant that the Forrest players couldn't do this anymore. The games were too quick for them and they couldn't adapt the system. Basically they got out ran.

There were lots of other things going on behind the scenes as well. Clough wasn't sober for much of the time, stuff about bungs was coming to the fore and football tactics were evolving as they always have done. In the end he couldn't change.
 
During the season Clough used to prioritise working with the ball over fitness and this worked a treat in the 60s and 70s. To make they way they played work they'd pass the ball around the back give it to Shilton and he'd launch it up the pitch. That way everyone got a breather. 92/93 was the first season after the backpass rule was changed and it meant that the Forrest players couldn't do this anymore. The games were too quick for them and they couldn't adapt the system. Basically they got out ran.

There were lots of other things going on behind the scenes as well. Clough wasn't sober for much of the time, stuff about bungs was coming to the fore and football tactics were evolving as they always have done. In the end he couldn't change.
Cheers for that mate. So basically football evolved and he couldn't move with it as drink was taking its toll. It seems time and changing tactics run a lot of people out of football in the end
 
Cheers for that mate. So basically football evolved and he couldn't move with it as drink was taking its toll. It seems time and changing tactics run a lot of people out of football in the end

Spot on BB. Reading various books he'd always liked a drink but it overtook him in the end sadly. However he was an absolute genius of that era (think mourinho, times it by ten, add charisma, charm and people skills). Pretty good striker before injury finished his career too. 251 goals in 274 games would be £100m territory these days.
 

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