I Don't Hate Hughes

[Ricster]

Re: Surely his time is up

So finally the penny seems to be dropping re Hughes.

With me it has never been about the points. It is the performances over the last year and a half.

Sometimes with Sven I could see a point to it all. Especially early on where we played some quite sophisticated football. With Hughes I have never had this feeling. Yes there have been one or two decent performances mainly centering around Ireland, Robinho and Elano. But overall it has been shambolic.

And I am glad that the majority are beginning to agree. Last week I said that all three games coming up were winnable. Hull obviously, Arsenal's kids and Chelsea at home. And if we won all three I would shut up about Hughes. However he fell at the first fence.

He has to go. I just hope that our owner has his finger on the trigger.

There have been some good performances, the only problem is that there hasn't been recently.

Someone posted the other day and said he'd never seen a split set of City fans before like this in his life, and this isn't good. Look whats happening on the board for example. We're all falling out with each other. Im sorry but give me 98/99 again any day of the week.

 

[mad zab]

Re: Surely his time is up

It's not sarcasm,people think your an attention seeking thick twat.

Thanks Bluemanc for that enlightening reply. You really are a genius.

I am beginning to change my mind regarding Hughes, but I agree with bluemanc that you are a thick twat, because there are plenty of threads on the subject.

I guess you are just an attention seeking whore!!

 

[mad zab]

Re: Surely his time is up

So finally the penny seems to be dropping re Hughes.

With me it has never been about the points. It is the performances over the last year and a half.

Sometimes with Sven I could see a point to it all. Especially early on where we played some quite sophisticated football. With Hughes I have never had this feeling. Yes there have been one or two decent performances mainly centering around Ireland, Robinho and Elano. But overall it has been shambolic.

And I am glad that the majority are beginning to agree. Last week I said that all three games coming up were winnable. Hull obviously, Arsenal's kids and Chelsea at home. And if we won all three I would shut up about Hughes. However he fell at the first fence.

He has to go. I just hope that our owner has his finger on the trigger.

There have been some good performances, the only problem is that there hasn't been recently.

Someone posted the other day and said he'd never seen a split set of City fans before like this in his life, and this isn't good. Look whats happening on the board for example. We're all falling out with each other. Im sorry but give me 98/99 again any day of the week.

Are you saying Sheik Mansour out lol!!

 

[Ricster]

Re: Surely his time is up

There have been some good performances, the only problem is that there hasn't been recently.

Someone posted the other day and said he'd never seen a split set of City fans before like this in his life, and this isn't good. Look whats happening on the board for example. We're all falling out with each other. Im sorry but give me 98/99 again any day of the week.

Are you saying Sheik Mansour out lol!!

Lol, no never, just seemed to be easier back then. None of this expectancy. We knew where we stood and we weren't really that bothered. We loved the club for what it was not for what it could be, and i think thats whats changing within people. Me included.

 

[badge]

Re: Surely his time is up

"we're frustrated because we're getting into winning situations and not seeing it out."
this is the comment that sums up mark hughes' thinking. trying to 'see out' a one nil win at home to hull city! we have now failed to beat three of the worst away sides in the league and, still , the excuses pour in. i think it was shay given, a few weeks ago, who gave a major insight into our manager's tactics. basically it's, because we're better than the opposition, all we need to do is keep it tight at the back and we'll hopefully have enough ability to score. when we went a goal up right on the brink of half time, it worried me that that would be enough for the boss and he'd send his troops out in the second half with the instruction to "not do anything silly." my fears were realised when we appeared to do very little to try and increase our lead. even when hull equalised and we were attacking, i noticed we still only committed four men forward.

after merely being a critic, i am now planting both feet firmly in the 'hughes out' camp. there is nothing on his cv to suggest success is on it's way. he's only good at managing sides with low expectations i.e. wales and blackburn. it will take a drastic change in tactics, and results, to get him back on side.

 

[m27]

Re: Surely his time is up

Are you saying Sheik Mansour out lol!!

Lol, no never, just seemed to be easier back then. None of this expectancy. We knew where we stood and we weren't really that bothered. We loved the club for what it was not for what it could be, and i think thats whats changing within people. Me included.

Don't be ashamed of actually wanting to win things. We have developed a sense of humour over the years because of the shit we have been through and we have used it as a defence mechanism to laugh off the hurt. The failure always hurt but what could we do? Nothing. However, if we fail now we can do something. We have the money to employ the best in the world so what's wrong with us demanding that?

Also,people seem to forget that the 98/99 season was 10 times more fractious than this one will ever be. Just because we got out of that division in the manner we did some people have forgotten how horrible the majority of it was. To wish for those dark days back is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on here.

 

[vonksbignose]

Re: Surely his time is up

Thanks Bluemanc for that enlightening reply. You really are a genius.

I am beginning to change my mind regarding Hughes, but I agree with bluemanc that you are a thick twat, because there are plenty of threads on the subject.

I guess you are just an attention seeking whore!!

I suggest you have a bit of a trawl through some of bluemanc's posts today before being so quick to judge who's the attention seeker. It's a bit of a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

And who gives a fuck anyway? So you all disagree on whether Hughes is the right man for the job. So fucking what!

I had a discussion with my housemate when he came in pissed last night & told him what Garry Cook had done at the OSC event. He stated that he basically thought that Cook should be hung, drawn & quartered for such a crime against humanity, to which I merely chuckled a bit & said I thought people maybe needed to get a bit of a sense of humour about things.

What I didn't do was call him an attention seeking thick twat & I didn't do that for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, he's a big lad & he'd probably have decked me, and not having the benefit of a computer screen to protect me kind of informed my decision making process in terms of how to handle the situation.

Secondly, I know he's as big a blue as you're likely to meet, he was a bit pissed & even if he wasn't, he's still entitled to disagree with me!

I eagerly await the day when Hughes either proves the outers wrong & wins something, or runs out of time & gets the push. Maybe then, the internet warriors can finally withdraw from their battle lines & everyone can remember that we're all here for the same reason - because we support Manchester City Football Club.

 

[n_mcfc]

Re: Surely his time is up

It only takes a win to turn things around.

Sadly it didn't come yesterday. I honestly can't see what good it would do sacking Hughes now when he's had only 3 months with his newly assembled team.

Personally I feel he's made one or two tactically poor decisions that may have cost us 2 points, but otherwise I think some players need to take some of the blame, in particular those who start to play long balls up as soon as we concede a goal. A tactic that hasn't worked for 2 months.

I also think Hughes often feels like he needs to bring on players like Santa Cruz and give Tevez 90 minutes to try and make them impress and to keep them happy rather than thinking about the team.

I just think yesterday was a wasted opportunity to get out of this frustrating run which we blew and now we've got the minor task of trying to beat Chelsea to stop the rot which looks unlikely.

 

[badge]

If we draw or beat chelsea not all should be forgotten, to some people it will be but it shouldn't be like that, 1 result shouldn't change everything, you can win a game one week against a class team and the next wele lose against a shit one at the bottom, if we beat chelsea it won't change my views on hughes in anyway at all.

Thats because you and others have been against him since day one on the basis that he was 'a rag'. It has pained you that we had a great start and the anti Hughes feelings subsided, now you see another chance to destabilise the club and manager again.

FACTS

1) We are currently in 6th position

2) If we win our game in hand (not guaranteed I know, but not impossible) we are 1 point of tottenham in 3rd.

3) On Wednesday we have the chance to reach our first major semi final since 1981.

4) SO are you telling me in all honesty in July 2009 you would not have accepted MCFC being potentially 1 point off third place and a home tie versus Arsenal reserves away from a semi final by early December??

If not, then some people need a very serious reality check.

FACTS:

we have won only one of our last nine games

games in hand aren't points in hand

we are two points ahead of big spending stoke

your fourth fact is NOT a fact

 

[vonksbignose]

Re: Surely his time is up

It only takes a win to turn things around.

Sadly it didn't come yesterday. I honestly can't see what good it would do sacking Hughes now when he's had only 3 months with his newly assembled team.

Personally I feel he's made one or two tactically poor decisions that may have cost us 2 points, but otherwise I think some players need to take some of the blame, in particular those who start to play long balls up as soon as we concede a goal. A tactic that hasn't worked for 2 months.

Who, at the football club, is in charge of tactics?

I also think Hughes often feels like he needs to bring on players like Santa Cruz and give Tevez 90 minutes to try and make them impress and to keep them happy rather than thinking about the team.

Who, at the football club, is in charge of player recruitment?