I hate to say it

[Jumanji]

wherever we finished and whatever we win or dont win bob must be allowed to stay in charge.

Shocker. I remember when you were iffy about Bobby. :-).

 

[Bill]

wherever we finished and whatever we win or don't win bob must be allowed to stay in charge.

Shocker. I remember when you were iffy about Bobby. :-).

i was iffy, no particularly iffy, of his tactics and man management (letting bellers go was a crime). the most important thing though is stability, we have got nowhere chopping and changing managers. to be fair he has not only won us the cup he has signed some fantastic players.

let him finish the job.

 

[Soulboy]

Do you think it is league or bust then for Mancini?

Yup. Here's another one from the Khaldoon interview at the beginning of the season:

No, the pressure IS now increased on Mancini; are you guys deaf? Khaldoon has JUST SAID THIS. He said next year he expects a title challenge, and for us to be "competitive" in every competition. He said that this season the goal was the top four and the cup.

That means that he has raised his expectations, thus Mancini has a shorter time next season to get it right. We all remember the trajectory?

Mancini has to meet new expectations, and with new (and loftier expectations) comes increased pressure.

Seriously, some of the stuff in this thread is madness. Firstly, Mancini must be under threat because Khaldoon didn't praise him enough (watch it again, he didn't really praise anyone), and now Mancini's job is completely safe because he won us a Cup. Oh, and he's off to Juve (he isn't).

I think some people need to realise who we are dealing with here. It's very nice that the Shiekh wears a City shirt with his kids, and that Khaldoon speaks with such enthusiasm for our games, but don't make the mistake of believing that they won't sack ANY manager who is not living up to their very high standards.

They aren't here to be great blokes, they're here to have a singular goal of dragging this club to the top of the worldwide pile. And as we said at the start of the takeover; these guys don't fail. They don't fail because they sack people who they don't believe matches their standard of excellence.

This isn't a knock on Mancini, who I believe to be an exceptionally gifted manager, this is just the way it is now. Mancini will have to either put up or shut up next season, just like he had to this season. This season he put up. Let's see what happens next year. Don't get me wrong though, if we win the league next year and the year after this we still aren't getting out of the group stages of the CL, they'll throw Mancini out so fast it will unknit his scarf.

We can debate the rights and wrongs of this type of strategy all day, but this remains the reality and we need to face up to that now, or get annoyed later.

The one thing that struck me more than anything about that interview was the matter of factness of Khaldoon. Whilst we are all fawning all over the place because we've won the FA Cup, he's congratulating people on meeting their targets. Not exceeding them, meeting them. He's expects the absolute best, and is satisfied when we get it. He's ruthless when we don't; ask Mark Hughes.

To us, the FA Cup was a triumph. A dream come true, an emotional culmination of 36 years of hurt, all wiped away with one touch of Yaya's boot. To Khaldoon, it was a Saturday. We did what was expected of us, nothing else.

I feel a bit like us fans are small children and Khaldoon is a father. We want congratulating and mass celebration for writing our own name; Khaldoon politely scruffles our hair, not really that bothered about it. To us, it's a monumental occasion and a great milestone in our lives whereas it was something that he expected us to do, and if we didn't he'd be very worried.

Mancini doesn't need to take a step backwards to get the sack, he just needs to stand still and he'll be gone. Either he progresses at an acceptable rate, or we'll find someone who will.

This is what they meant when they said increased pressure.

I still think that.

Don't mistake my realism around the workings of "new City" to be in any way a criticism of Mancini, and there are far too many people on here who try to make arguments into either a all out positive or all out negative world view, which is totally bullshit.

Surely it cannot be that every season though, the pressure has to come off sometime otherwise Mancini and any other manager can never express themselves. I would hope that a league win this season would relieve the pressure of Mancini for the foreseeable future.

I've said it before that there is no point in spending £100m+ on a new academy training ground if managers are always going to be under pressure to risk blooding them in.

A manager should be judged on his future, not his past.

I learnt that very early on in my career...

 

[2sheikhs]

wherever we finished and whatever we win or don't win bob must be allowed to stay in charge.

Shocker. I remember when you were iffy about Bobby. :-).

i was iffy, no particularly iffy, of his tactics and man management (letting bellers go was a crime). the most important thing though is stability, we have got nowhere chopping and changing managers. to be fair he has not only won us the cup he has signed some fantastic players.

let him finish the job.

I normally can't find fault with any of your posts Bill but bellamy had to go. Hughes bum-chum, bad apple and trouble causer.

 

[Bill]

Shocker. I remember when you were iffy about Bobby. :-).

i was iffy, no particularly iffy, of his tactics and man management (letting bellers go was a crime). the most important thing though is stability, we have got nowhere chopping and changing managers. to be fair he has not only won us the cup he has signed some fantastic players.

let him finish the job.

I normally can't find fault with any of your posts Bill but bellamy had to go. Hughes bum-chum, bad apple and trouble causer.

A flawed genius for me mate, bobby is paid to manage and that's what he should have done.

 

[Comrade Buka]

It would be big blow for both club and much more to Mancini's reputation but club doesn't become successful with changing managers each 2 years.

United would still be on Everton's levels if they did it when Ferguson missed to bring any silverware at OT in his first 4-5 years.

City needs stability and the only way to reach that is to not change managers all the time.

Ferguson, despite all his antics, has a beast in his chest. Ready to pounce when players don't perform. Mancini has a puppy at best.

I love Mancini for what he is, a gentleman with style. But I am starting to see his weaknesses. And they are not the kind you can fix. It is just the way he is.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Our highest expectation at the start of the season would have been to challenge for the title, which we are currently doing and are top of the table. Don't see your logic.

 

[rastus]

It would be big blow for both club and much more to Mancini's reputation but club doesn't become successful with changing managers each 2 years.

United would still be on Everton's levels if they did it when Ferguson missed to bring any silverware at OT in his first 4-5 years.

City needs stability and the only way to reach that is to not change managers all the time.

Ferguson, despite all his antics, has a beast in his chest. Ready to pounce when players don't perform. Mancini has a puppy at best.

I love Mancini for what he is, a gentleman with style. But I am starting to see his weaknesses. And they are not the kind you can fix. It is just the way he is.

And how long did it take baconface to become established?

 

[Jumanji]

↑ 5 years, was it?

 

[Comrade Buka]

Our highest expectation at the start of the season would have been to challenge for the title, which we are currently doing and are top of the table. Don't see your logic.

Perhaps you will see it next season, when our "learning curve" in CL continues.

With a transfer purse like Mancini has had, anything but would be criminal. So I am afraid I don't see your logic.