i told you so 'mooners

[FazzMCFC09]

Why such a hype over Dzeko? Is he really as good as everybody paints him out to be on here? From what ive seen he looks nothing more than average.....
If anybody can prove me wrong through videos or what then please do.

yes he really is that good:

24 years old
6 foot 3 (1.92 m)

This year: 8 goals in 12 games
Last year: 22 goals in 34 games
Year before that: 26 goals in 32 games.

Fair enough i suppose, have you seen him play often or just got these stats?
Just we have seen players with good goalscoring records before and they join city and fail to produce

 

[Burtonblue]

I dont think we need any strikers (although I think we might have to bite the bullet with Tevez and let him go, he is a great player and earns every penny but he dosnt want to be here I salute his commitment under those circumstances agree Dzeko would be ideal) What we really need is some creative offensive midfielders to provide the ammunition the strikers we have.
We are two players away from dominating the premier league.

Agree. Torres and Gerrard would do for starters.

 

[1fingerwillie]

yes he really is that good:

24 years old
6 foot 3 (1.92 m)

This year: 8 goals in 12 games
Last year: 22 goals in 34 games
Year before that: 26 goals in 32 games.

Fair enough i suppose, have you seen him play often or just got these stats?
Just we have seen players with good goalscoring records before and they join city and fail to produce

I don't watch the bundesliga regularly--other than highlights, but I have friends who do who swear he is the real thing. Jo and RSC are two who stand out who have put up big numbers for one year and then flopped here (Jo's success arguably was not in the best league). What i like about Dzeko is he seems to have the right attitude, he has the right physical build, and three years running (starting at age 21) he has been extremely consistent. You won't see Mario's flair or antics from Dzeko but you will get a polished pro who is coming into his own. No way to know for sure but he has that hard tough look to him that says he is ready to compete at the highest level in the prem. Given a chance between him and Torres I would take Dzeko. He is on the rise...can't say the same for Torres...plus he will be 15 mil. cheaper. If we can get a combined 17 mill for RSC and Ade, we should jump on Dezko for 35.

PS: golden boot last year in germany and holds the record for goals at his club which says something since he is only 24.

 

[dctid]

i started a thread before the season started and i said we need FIVE available good quality strikers to call on. At that time we were still in the carling cup! I said all the top teams (except arsenal) have 5 strikers to call on!
I knew tevez would be our main striker and i also knew caecido, rsc and jo could not be relied on!

I took loads of shit for this thread. I am now not gloating or happy to be proved right, anything but! but we need to address this in jan if we are to mount a serious challenge on our remaining 3 poss trophies!

If tevez suffers a serious injury tomorrow in training or goes walkabouts in argentina, who is going to play up front for us? and would you be happy with your selection fellow blues!

We need Dzeko and also one more proven striker and then ade could be the 4th! I would lose rsc and jo as quick as a fox in a henhouse! We have a long and arduous season and as the last few matches show in quick succession.

The trouble is i have no confidence bringing on rsc or jo in the 65th min at craven cottage if we are one down! Lets spend big again in jan and secure the gold at the bottom of the rainbow this year!

Can't wait for stoke away and watch mario take some pressure off king carlito!!

We wont be able to keep 5 qulity strikers happy - we need 3 quality ones which in theory we have (Tevez - Ade & Balo) backed up with a Jo type person essentially someone who is happy to play a few games a year.

We got Cruz but he has not been played not even registered for the fookin europa

Dzeko would be a yes for me BUT would mean a change in formation - probably a 4 4 1 1 with Tevez being behind the main striker.

 

[1fingerwillie]

i started a thread before the season started and i said we need FIVE available good quality strikers to call on. At that time we were still in the carling cup! I said all the top teams (except arsenal) have 5 strikers to call on!
I knew tevez would be our main striker and i also knew caecido, rsc and jo could not be relied on!

I took loads of shit for this thread. I am now not gloating or happy to be proved right, anything but! but we need to address this in jan if we are to mount a serious challenge on our remaining 3 poss trophies!

If tevez suffers a serious injury tomorrow in training or goes walkabouts in argentina, who is going to play up front for us? and would you be happy with your selection fellow blues!

We need Dzeko and also one more proven striker and then ade could be the 4th! I would lose rsc and jo as quick as a fox in a henhouse! We have a long and arduous season and as the last few matches show in quick succession.

The trouble is i have no confidence bringing on rsc or jo in the 65th min at craven cottage if we are one down! Lets spend big again in jan and secure the gold at the bottom of the rainbow this year!

Can't wait for stoke away and watch mario take some pressure off king carlito!!

We wont be able to keep 5 qulity strikers happy - we need 3 quality ones which in theory we have (Tevez - Ade & Balo) backed up with a Jo type person essentially someone who is happy to play a few games a year.

We got Cruz but he has not been played not even registered for the fookin europa

Dzeko would be a yes for me BUT would mean a change in formation - probably a 4 4 1 1 with Tevez being behind the main striker.

I would welcome that change in formation. Let Tevez play in the hole where he is most comfortable and put Balo or Dzeko up top. Just imagine an attack that included:

Balo/Dzeko
Tevez
Silva
Boateng
Kolarov

and the occasional run by Yaya and Milner. Let the goals start poring in.

 

[FazzMCFC09]

Fair enough i suppose, have you seen him play often or just got these stats?
Just we have seen players with good goalscoring records before and they join city and fail to produce

I don't watch the bundesliga regularly--other than highlights, but I have friends who do who swear he is the real thing. Jo and RSC are two who stand out who have put up big numbers for one year and then flopped here (Jo's success arguably was not in the best league). What i like about Dzeko is he seems to have the right attitude, he has the right physical build, and three years running (starting at age 21) he has been extremely consistent. You won't see Mario's flair or antics from Dzeko but you will get a polished pro who is coming into his own. No way to know for sure but he has that hard tough look to him that says he is ready to compete at the highest level in the prem. Given a chance between him and Torres I would take Dzeko. He is on the rise...can't say the same for Torres...plus he will be 15 mil. cheaper. If we can get a combined 17 mill for RSC and Ade, we should jump on Dezko for 35.

PS: golden boot last year in germany and holds the record for goals at his club which says something since he is only 24.

Well youve convinced me, cheers for that lets hope he proves himself if we do get him then.

 

[dctid]

We wont be able to keep 5 qulity strikers happy - we need 3 quality ones which in theory we have (Tevez - Ade & Balo) backed up with a Jo type person essentially someone who is happy to play a few games a year.

We got Cruz but he has not been played not even registered for the fookin europa

Dzeko would be a yes for me BUT would mean a change in formation - probably a 4 4 1 1 with Tevez being behind the main striker.

I would welcome that change in formation. Let Tevez play in the hole where he is most comfortable and put Balo or Dzeko up top. Just imagine an attack that included:

Balo/Dzeko
Tevez
Silva
Boateng
Kolarov

and the occasional run by Yaya and Milner. Let the goals start poring in.

Not seen enough from Kolorov or Boatang to indicate they are anything other than decent full backs - certainly no Ashley Cole.

Bellamy would help

Letting Tevez play in the hole means that we have to find Silva a new position because that is where Silva plays. My biggest single critisim of the signings is that we appear to have bought the players without considering the formation we want to play.

Going to be some unhappy players come January - personally i would ditch Yaya and play Milner instead and tell the fooker to work box to box.

 

[1fingerwillie]

I would welcome that change in formation. Let Tevez play in the hole where he is most comfortable and put Balo or Dzeko up top. Just imagine an attack that included:

Balo/Dzeko
Tevez
Silva
Boateng
Kolarov

and the occasional run by Yaya and Milner. Let the goals start poring in.

Not seen enough from Kolorov or Boatang to indicate they are anything other than decent full backs - certainly no Ashley Cole.

Bellamy would help

Letting Tevez play in the hole means that we have to find Silva a new position because that is where Silva plays. My biggest single critisim of the signings is that we appear to have bought the players without considering the formation we want to play.

Going to be some unhappy players come January - personally i would ditch Yaya and play Milner instead and tell the fooker to work box to box.

Disagree completely. Bellars...good riddance. Tevez playing off Mario with Silva as the creative tip to the diamond will work wonders...see west brom.

I would say we bought players SPECIFICALLY because of the formation we want to play.

The Diamond calls for two attacking full backs (Kolarov and Boateng)

Three holding/centeral midfielders (Yaya and Milner--added to De Jong and Barry)

Creative tip to the diamond (Silva)

Two strikers who complement each other (Balo with Tevez in the hole behind him).

Adding Dzeko and Pastore to give depth to the strikers and Silva respectively will give us the flexibility to play this formation regardless of injuries.

This team has been carefully crafted starting in June. We haven't seen its potential yet.

How can you say Kolarov is no Cole after watching him for a total of about 110 minutes?

 

[dctid]

Not seen enough from Kolorov or Boatang to indicate they are anything other than decent full backs - certainly no Ashley Cole.

Bellamy would help

Letting Tevez play in the hole means that we have to find Silva a new position because that is where Silva plays. My biggest single critisim of the signings is that we appear to have bought the players without considering the formation we want to play.

Going to be some unhappy players come January - personally i would ditch Yaya and play Milner instead and tell the fooker to work box to box.

Disagree completely. Bellars...good riddance. Tevez playing off Mario with Silva as the creative tip to the diamond will work wonders...see west brom.

I would say we bought players SPECIFICALLY because of the formation we want to play.

The Diamond calls for two attacking full backs (Kolarov and Boateng)

Three holding/centeral midfielders (Yaya and Milner--added to De Jong and Barry)

Creative tip to the diamond (Silva)

Two strikers who complement each other (Balo with Tevez in the hole behind him).

Adding Dzeko and Pastore to give depth to the strikers and Silva respectively will give us the flexibility to play this formation regardless of injuries.

This team has been carefully crafted starting in June. We haven't seen its potential yet.

How can you say Kolarov is no Cole after watching him for a total of about 110 minutes?

Bellars is a 100 times better than Milner on the left - Milner was shite as a winger at Villa he only excelled when played centrally

When i see both Kolorov and Boatang bombing on then i might agree with you but i aint seen anything like that yet.

This mystical diamond formation which i have difficulty remembering / seeing how often have we played it this season not many i would wager -

We have had pretty much a full team the last two maybe three games and certainly the people to play the "diamond" but we aint seen it.

Sorry this team has been put together without consideration of tactics

 

[1fingerwillie]

Disagree completely. Bellars...good riddance. Tevez playing off Mario with Silva as the creative tip to the diamond will work wonders...see west brom.

I would say we bought players SPECIFICALLY because of the formation we want to play.

The Diamond calls for two attacking full backs (Kolarov and Boateng)

Three holding/centeral midfielders (Yaya and Milner--added to De Jong and Barry)

Creative tip to the diamond (Silva)

Two strikers who complement each other (Balo with Tevez in the hole behind him).

Adding Dzeko and Pastore to give depth to the strikers and Silva respectively will give us the flexibility to play this formation regardless of injuries.

This team has been carefully crafted starting in June. We haven't seen its potential yet.

How can you say Kolarov is no Cole after watching him for a total of about 110 minutes?

Bellars is a 100 times better than Milner on the left - Milner was shite as a winger at Villa he only excelled when played centrally

When i see both Kolorov and Boatang bombing on then i might agree with you but i aint seen anything like that yet.

This mystical diamond formation which i have difficulty remembering / seeing how often have we played it this season not many i would wager -

We have had pretty much a full team the last two maybe three games and certainly the people to play the "diamond" but we aint seen it.

Sorry this team has been put together without consideration of tactics

Never said Bellars wasn't better than Milner on the left. Milner should NEVER be played on the wing (which is why I listed him as a central midfielder in my last post).

Diamond isn't that mystical. Bobby played it and won at Inter. You have not seen it this year because we haven't played it

Pretty much isn't good enough. Who would your second striker have been last weekend...Jo or RSC. Not really who I would want to start. We in fact have NOT had the personnel to play the Diamond this season. We have come close but that is not enough. Come Stoke we will for the first time. We will see if Bobby plays it.

Say what you want about Mancini, but to suggest he would build a team without consideration of tactics makes you look rather foolish.