BlueHammer85
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I urge the Queen not to come to Ireland.
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HamannCheese
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It's not just N.Ireland, it's Ireland too. The north is split between republicans and unionists. Surely you know all about the history no?
BlueHammer85
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YungJoshiiMcFc said:It's not just N.Ireland, it's Ireland too. The north is split between republicans and unionists. Surely you know all about the history no?
I could google it and pretend i know everything
but no, Irish history is one topic ive never been taught and never learnt.
teach me
Jackson-ctid
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The Pope came to scotland and wasn't assassinated, Obama is black and wasn't assassinated, pretty sure the queen won't be assassinated. I think the last head of state to be assassinated in a civillized country was JFK lol.
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And even that was the Gov...Jackson-ctid said:The Pope came to scotland and wasn't assassinated, Obama is black and wasn't assassinated, pretty sure the queen won't be assassinated. I think the last head of state to be assassinated in a civillized country was JFK lol.
jimharri
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<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland</a>Markt85 said:YungJoshiiMcFc said:It's not just N.Ireland, it's Ireland too. The north is split between republicans and unionists. Surely you know all about the history no?
I could google it and pretend i know everything
but no, Irish history is one topic ive never been taught and never learnt.
teach me
Have fun!
HamannCheese
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jimharri said:<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland</a>Markt85 said:I could google it and pretend i know everything
but no, Irish history is one topic ive never been taught and never learnt.
teach me
Have fun!
Wrong link.
jimharri
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In what way? That page describes the history of the foundation of Northern Ireland, which is at the root of most (all?) the tensions on this island. If you want, I can put up a link to the potato famine, which a lot of hard line republicans lay the fault for at the door of the royal family.YungJoshiiMcFc said:jimharri said:<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland</a>
Have fun!
Wrong link.
*edit* Plus Markt85 said he never learnt Irish history, so I put a link to a quick and simple guide to Irish history up for him. Of course there's a lot of stuff missing out of it. It isn't meant to be the ultimate history lesson.
As a English fella living in Ireland for the last ten years I don't think she should come, it'sjust stirring up the past. Going to croke park is a disgrace.
People must understand the royals and that class of people are the nemesis of the Irish. Rich plummy voiced land owners persecuting the natives pushing them into poverty and despair for years and years. Forcing thousands to emigrate and many to starve etc.
Just in regard to the people not knowing the history this is fairly common in England I certainly wasn't taught in school, They are not doing it to annoy the Irish it's genuinely the truth.
And though I do believe the England as a nation sometimes need a push towards looking at the darker details of our past. I also think the Irish should appreciate that a lot of English also carry the same feeling towards the upper classes, and as we shouldn't stereotype either should they. We are not all died in the wool unionists.
If she does come which I'm sure she will. I hope it passes of peacefully but irelands in a funny spot at the moment the country is broke, and people have genuine grievances about life in general and it only takes one nut job to cause maximum damage.
If she came during the boom I dont think anyone would have batted an eyelid, probably would have been delighted to show her how far the country had come since the Brits f@@ked off, but it's changed alot now and the old grievences are coming to the forefront.
Ireland is at a bit of a crossroads now the next few years
People must understand the royals and that class of people are the nemesis of the Irish. Rich plummy voiced land owners persecuting the natives pushing them into poverty and despair for years and years. Forcing thousands to emigrate and many to starve etc.
Just in regard to the people not knowing the history this is fairly common in England I certainly wasn't taught in school, They are not doing it to annoy the Irish it's genuinely the truth.
And though I do believe the England as a nation sometimes need a push towards looking at the darker details of our past. I also think the Irish should appreciate that a lot of English also carry the same feeling towards the upper classes, and as we shouldn't stereotype either should they. We are not all died in the wool unionists.
If she does come which I'm sure she will. I hope it passes of peacefully but irelands in a funny spot at the moment the country is broke, and people have genuine grievances about life in general and it only takes one nut job to cause maximum damage.
If she came during the boom I dont think anyone would have batted an eyelid, probably would have been delighted to show her how far the country had come since the Brits f@@ked off, but it's changed alot now and the old grievences are coming to the forefront.
Ireland is at a bit of a crossroads now the next few years
Citizen52
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There are obviously things that have been done in the past, lots of things that I won't go into here. If you google no Queen in Ireland or something along those lines you'll see why on a few forums, I don't really want to rake over that stuff here and Jim has mentioned a couple above.
Another issue seems to be the expense of the security operation involved.
Another issue seems to be the expense of the security operation involved.