"I would rather lose a tournament than break my word to a player"

Delighted for him - (willy) he will remember that day forever and will now allways be fondly remembered by city fans.

As for manuel - he is a gentleman. Represented our club very well and won us 3 trophies. Our last 2 managers have been wonderful.
 
I was fine with Manuel's decision unlike many others on here and no-one heard me going on about Willy playing.

My whole point was our leader who is employed to win trophies and titles saying to the media that he'd rather lose yesterday than go back on his word to Willy. Even if this was the case, why would one say it in public and where was his concern with players feelings when he dropped Jovetic from the CL squad last season?

Seems like one rule for Willy and another for everyone Jovetic.
Again, I think this is a gross misunderstanding of the situation. It's my contention that as part of City's recruitment policies, they generally promise a starting goalie somewhere else, the backup role at City with the perk of getting to play in the 2 smaller cups, and also be an insurance policy if our Starter gets injured.

This is great long-term thinking and an opportunity to guarantee great backups for our Starting keeper ( who almost always will be someone who is hard to beat out by an outsider). 2nd, promising the smaller cups also serves a second purpose of keeping the backup goalie sharp and ready to step in if the starter gets injured. 3rd. It hlgives the starter an opportunity to rest during the season and not have to play every game.

There is nothing about this policy, that does not in the long run, put City First. It is only when you view it from a narrow 90 minute lense ( which a lot of our fans and good for nothing media types who just want to stare shit) that one can end up concluding differently than Pellars did.

Unstated but implied in Pellars comments are the following: ' because it is what's best for our club'.

That is, it is better for our club to stand on principle and lose, than it would be to win but lose our character. If Hart had been brought in and won, how does the club then attract the next young up and coming superstar goalie, when he knows the minute a trophy is in view, we'll dump him for Joe in net.

Why would a young stud want that? He'd rather go get weekly game time at a midtable club instead. And that's why sticking with this principle counts for more than just the win. It sends a message. Here at City we will win, we will win a lot, and we will win on principle. Come join the party, you won't be disappointed.

That's why it would have been better for Pellars to lose the Cup, than renege on a club position. It is in the clubs interest as much as Pellars to stand on principle. Even if this wasn't apparent to fans, the look on Willy's face and the passion he exuded throughout the game should have made that clear.
 
Agreed. I just couldn't believe it when I heard what he said as I thought a manager was there to whatever he could to win trophies and titles. I just think it was ill advised for him to say this publicly.

On the flip side of the coin, can you imagine if you'd busted your arse all season hoping to be called up on merit just to learn an agreement had already been forged that your playing rival will play come rain, wind, snow, sun or if his fuckin left leg fell off?
Yup I can see that being great for team spirit! Lol :-)

Yep! And thats what a high % of City fans wanted :(
 
Again, I think this is a gross misunderstanding of the situation. It's my contention that as part of City's recruitment policies, they generally promise a starting goalie somewhere else, the backup role at City with the perk of getting to play in the 2 smaller cups, and also be an insurance policy if our Starter gets injured.

This is great long-term thinking and an opportunity to guarantee great backups for our Starting keeper ( who almost always will be someone who is hard to beat out by an outsider). 2nd, promising the smaller cups also serves a second purpose of keeping the backup goalie sharp and ready to step in if the starter gets injured. 3rd. It hlgives the starter an opportunity to rest during the season and not have to play every game.

There is nothing about this policy, that does not in the long run, put City First. It is only when you view it from a narrow 90 minute lense ( which a lot of our fans and good for nothing media types who just want to stare shit) that one can end up concluding differently than Pellars did.

Unstated but implied in Pellars comments are the following: ' because it is what's best for our club'.

That is, it is better for our club to stand on principle and lose, than it would be to win but lose our character. If Hart had been brought in and won, how does the club then attract the next young up and coming superstar goalie, when he knows the minute a trophy is in view, we'll dump him for Joe in net.

Why would a young stud want that? He'd rather go get weekly game time at a midtable club instead. And that's why sticking with this principle counts for more than just the win. It sends a message. Here at City we will win, we will win a lot, and we will win on principle. Come join the party, you won't be disappointed.

That's why it would have been better for Pellars to lose the Cup, than renege on a club position. It is in the clubs interest as much as Pellars to stand on principle. Even if this wasn't apparent to fans, the look on Willy's face and the passion he exuded throughout the game should have made that clear.

Brilliant post.
 
Not only does his comment show the manager in a good light, it also reflects well on the club. Even after Pelligrini has gone we will reap the benefit of his legacy as future players will see we are not bullshitters and are men of our word.
 
No matter how many people say it on here Willy is not shite. Manuel promising Willy his place is simply the Spanish style of having a cup keeper. Caballero really wasn't that bad at Chelsea, he's probably had worse games, more to do with the players infront of him I say. So Pellegrini wasn't throwing caution to the wind or just trying to convince us all he's a nice guy. He simply stuck to his tactics. I wouldn't even call it a risk because Willy has quality (ofcourse played out of his skin yesterday) and the team infront of him was vastly improved. His record speaks for itself, he is a very good manager. Fair enough if you don't like him or his tactics but they did work. His class is an added bonus, how anyone can say he doesn't put winning first I do not know. It all worked out which meant Pellegrini could say this, I believe he likes to stand up for himself to the media where possible, if we didn't win I think we'd have more worries than what he would say. Bluemoaners you made me shake my head in disbelief once again, now back to sense and joy!

Are we all forgetting his performance against Chelsea because it is conveniant or something? He was dog shit against Chelsea, as piss poor a performance as I have seen in net for us, genuinely can't remember a worse game from any keeper. That's why me and many others didn't want to see his name in the starting 11. That said, yesterday he was magnificent, particularly loved his save from lalana's penalty.
It just seems that there is a massive bandwagon jumping on competition going on, or a prove you're a real city fan competition. Let's get real everyone.
 
Delighted for him - (willy) he will remember that day forever and will now allways be fondly remembered by city fans.

As for manuel - he is a gentleman. Represented our club very well and won us 3 trophies. Our last 2 managers have been wonderful.

Spot on Worsley Web. Our last two managers have been top people!
 
Are we all forgetting his performance against Chelsea because it is conveniant or something? He was dog shit against Chelsea, as piss poor a performance as I have seen in net for us, genuinely can't remember a worse game from any keeper. That's why me and many others didn't want to see his name in the starting 11. That said, yesterday he was magnificent, particularly loved his save from lalana's penalty.
It just seems that there is a massive bandwagon jumping on competition going on, or a prove you're a real city fan competition. Let's get real everyone.

Some of us didn't need to jump on the bandwagon and it is credit to our fans that so many have eat a slice of humble pie!

Now that humble pie has been sold out in every super market across Greater Manchester, we can get on with all being Blues together. A win at Anfield on Wednesday would round off a perfect week!
 
Are we all forgetting his performance against Chelsea because it is conveniant or something? He was dog shit against Chelsea, as piss poor a performance as I have seen in net for us, genuinely can't remember a worse game from any keeper. That's why me and many others didn't want to see his name in the starting 11. That said, yesterday he was magnificent, particularly loved his save from lalana's penalty.
It just seems that there is a massive bandwagon jumping on competition going on, or a prove you're a real city fan competition. Let's get real everyone.
There are threads prior to the game. It's not a jump on, nor is it a damning of those who saw different. It's just what some of us saw.

For what it's worth, the Chelsea game was a throw away game, a game that was lost long before any ball was kicked. And while he made errors he also saved a 2 point blank shots and a penalty. Poor game, but he showed character. The game was over when he went out and stopped a Pen. He has played well in many games for ( Not as good as Joe's best) but better than some of Joe's worst. So it was a negligible gamble to start with.

Binning him for poor performance in a game we purposely gave him no chance of success at, would have been callous at best. Character matters. I don't know why so many don't see this :(
 

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