If Mancini is so bad

St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Thorpiemcfc said:
Marvin said:
Most managers are brought in for the long term, but if we saying 2nd and a Cup Final is not enough, then God help Pellegrini. To expect a new manager to come in seamlessly and take over a new squad which requires a couple of changes is fraught with problems.

With Ferguson gone, we should have gone for continuity and given Mancini the forwards the squad lacks


Lacks forwards? Aguero was one of the best in the world last season, Tevez never stops and is still far better than most premier league strikers and Dzeko is a goal scorer out and out even when he hardly plays, Mancini sold Balo who's got 11 in 11 for Milan and could of let Guidetti step up but his reluctance to play youngsters who are hungry is one more reason he shouldn't be there.

Shows how much you know. Is that the Same Guidetti who has had a serious viral illness which has ruled him out of stepping up to the demand of the first team all season. Do some research mate.
Aguero -Mr inconsistent
Dzeko - The miss at Swansea says it all
Balotelli - Glad he went

Aguero was mr consistent at athletico. Roberto has ruined him
 
Benarbia said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Thorpiemcfc said:
Lacks forwards? Aguero was one of the best in the world last season, Tevez never stops and is still far better than most premier league strikers and Dzeko is a goal scorer out and out even when he hardly plays, Mancini sold Balo who's got 11 in 11 for Milan and could of let Guidetti step up but his reluctance to play youngsters who are hungry is one more reason he shouldn't be there.

Shows how much you know. Is that the Same Guidetti who has had a serious viral illness which has ruled him out of stepping up to the demand of the first team all season. Do some research mate.
Aguero -Mr inconsistent
Dzeko - The miss at Swansea says it all
Balotelli - Glad he went

Aguero was mr consistent at athletico. Roberto has ruined him
I watched Balo that other day where they won 4-0 and I have to say it was like watching a completely different player. He was immense, I've never believed in the hype but he did look world class in that game. When Aguero came to us he was billed as 1 of the worlds top elite players, starting to look like a pub player now. Mancini has turned most players in to shadows of themselves. Dzeko, Aguero, Tevez, Silva, Nasri, Yaya and even Balo when he was here.
 
Marvin said:
Blue Elmo said:
I like Mancini, the work he has done is phenomenal. But as much as I like him and realise there are numerous advantages to having him as manager, there also come numerous disadvantages. I'd like to see him stay and have the chance to rectify his wrongs by signing the key players needed, but ultimately, I do think he will leave. He is a winner and he has the highest standards I have ever seen from a Manchester City manager. Even in victory, he will still look for fault and look to improve. He will beat himself up after a loss because he wants to win, always. But balanced out, his lack of man management and tactical shockers at times could cost him. Whether Pellegrini is the man to take us forward I don't know, but hopefully if brought in, he is brought in for the long term.
Most managers are brought in for the long term, but if we saying 2nd and a Cup Final is not enough, then God help Pellegrini. To expect a new manager to come in seamlessly and take over a new squad which requires a couple of changes is fraught with problems.

With Ferguson gone, we should have gone for continuity and given Mancini the forwards the squad lacks
It isn't so much that 2nd and a cup final isn't enough, it's the general manner of how things have gone. 2nd but nowhere near genuinely competing for the title and losing in the cup final with such an abject performance against a team who will be in the championship in a week. I can't believe anyone, however much they love Mancini would argue that we haven't gone significantly backwards this season. And that is the key. Do you believe that this season of regression is a mere blip or will the regression continue? If we had played well this season, with a general feeling that things were going even vaguely in the right direction but still finished 2nd then I don't think people would be moaning too much. But let's be honest considering the players we have, we have been really shit.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Thorpiemcfc said:
Marvin said:
Most managers are brought in for the long term, but if we saying 2nd and a Cup Final is not enough, then God help Pellegrini. To expect a new manager to come in seamlessly and take over a new squad which requires a couple of changes is fraught with problems.

With Ferguson gone, we should have gone for continuity and given Mancini the forwards the squad lacks


Lacks forwards? Aguero was one of the best in the world last season, Tevez never stops and is still far better than most premier league strikers and Dzeko is a goal scorer out and out even when he hardly plays, Mancini sold Balo who's got 11 in 11 for Milan and could of let Guidetti step up but his reluctance to play youngsters who are hungry is one more reason he shouldn't be there.

Shows how much you know. Is that the Same Guidetti who has had a serious viral illness which has ruled him out of stepping up to the demand of the first team all season. Do some research mate.
Aguero -Mr inconsistent
Dzeko - The miss at Swansea says it all
Balotelli - Glad he went

Yep, and all three signed by Bobby boy.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Thorpiemcfc said:
Marvin said:
Most managers are brought in for the long term, but if we saying 2nd and a Cup Final is not enough, then God help Pellegrini. To expect a new manager to come in seamlessly and take over a new squad which requires a couple of changes is fraught with problems.

With Ferguson gone, we should have gone for continuity and given Mancini the forwards the squad lacks


Lacks forwards? Aguero was one of the best in the world last season, Tevez never stops and is still far better than most premier league strikers and Dzeko is a goal scorer out and out even when he hardly plays, Mancini sold Balo who's got 11 in 11 for Milan and could of let Guidetti step up but his reluctance to play youngsters who are hungry is one more reason he shouldn't be there.

Shows how much you know. Is that the Same Guidetti who has had a serious viral illness which has ruled him out of stepping up to the demand of the first team all season. Do some research mate.
Aguero -Mr inconsistent
Dzeko - The miss at Swansea says it all
Balotelli - Glad he went

So Guidetti is still out and unable to take any part in a side needing goals very badly? Not even a substitute appearance to speak of yet is in full training with the side, Mancini has shown little to no faith in any youngsters since joining, bar Nastasic who has been incredible from the start.

Aguero - some injuries and never playing to his strengths all season can't help, he loves to run at people but when we build so slow and let teams double up its hard for him to do what he does best.

Dzeko -basing your opinion on one miss, silva missed a fairly simple chance at Swansea, does this make him a poor player not good enough?

Balo - will always split opinion as he was very frustrating, but cannot deny his talent and when he is made the main man he does it so well, look at the 6-1 and that period last season, Italy in the euros and Milan now...
 
Benarbia said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Thorpiemcfc said:
Lacks forwards? Aguero was one of the best in the world last season, Tevez never stops and is still far better than most premier league strikers and Dzeko is a goal scorer out and out even when he hardly plays, Mancini sold Balo who's got 11 in 11 for Milan and could of let Guidetti step up but his reluctance to play youngsters who are hungry is one more reason he shouldn't be there.

Shows how much you know. Is that the Same Guidetti who has had a serious viral illness which has ruled him out of stepping up to the demand of the first team all season. Do some research mate.
Aguero -Mr inconsistent
Dzeko - The miss at Swansea says it all
Balotelli - Glad he went

Aguero was mr consistent at athletico. Roberto has ruined him

Not true actually, I spoke to some of their fans when he signed and they weren't too sorry to lose him for that reason.
 
SuperYaya said:
Benarbia said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Shows how much you know. Is that the Same Guidetti who has had a serious viral illness which has ruled him out of stepping up to the demand of the first team all season. Do some research mate.
Aguero -Mr inconsistent
Dzeko - The miss at Swansea says it all
Balotelli - Glad he went

Aguero was mr consistent at athletico. Roberto has ruined him

Not true actually, I spoke to some of their fans when he signed and they weren't too sorry to lose him for that reason.
Are these actual match going fans? Wasn't he averaging 24 goals a season the last 4 seasons at Atletico?
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
SuperYaya said:
Benarbia said:
Aguero was mr consistent at athletico. Roberto has ruined him

Not true actually, I spoke to some of their fans when he signed and they weren't too sorry to lose him for that reason.
Are these actual match going fans? Wasn't he averaging 24 goals a season the last 4 seasons at Atletico?
I spoke to some of their fans and they said he was the best player they had ever seen. It's easy to come out with utterly unverifiable stuff like that. Whatever he did in Spain, the bottom line is he looked awesome when he first arrived, was very good for lots of last season and has been a shadow of that this season so it's difficult to deny that he hasn't got worse under Mancini because it's happened infront of our very eyes. But then we could say the same about a number of players.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
SuperYaya said:
Benarbia said:
Aguero was mr consistent at athletico. Roberto has ruined him

Not true actually, I spoke to some of their fans when he signed and they weren't too sorry to lose him for that reason.
Are these actual match going fans? Wasn't he averaging 24 goals a season the last 4 seasons at Atletico?

I don't know, but he's averaged 24 goals a season here and been fairly inconsistent this year.

I think part of the problem is we've seen what he can do so expectations are high. I definitely would like to see him being a bit more clinical, there's been a few of games where he misses several chances before finishing one.
 

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