If Mancini Was To Resign

[wayne71]

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Not the first time,though, is it? Remember Bellamy, Ireland and Adebayor?

Yes, thank fuck he got rid of those 3 troublesome clowns as well. I don't think we would have lifted the cup with that bunch of bad vibes around. Well done Mancini.

They were not 'troublesome clowns' under Hughes.

Just fucking clowns then eh?

 

[Blue Mooner]

I have it on good authrority that Mancini is not well liked by a number of playrs in the dressing room
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Go on then.....

Because I have it on good authority that he is...

just to help you out....
Do you mean as a person,
As a football manager,
Or as a boss?

I honestly don't know the answer to that question and I don't know how widespread that feeling is - but I think the answer would be as a person - which I would agree doesn't necessarily mean that he can't be a good manager and succeed with his methods but in this case I think it has caused him a serious problem that needn't have arisen had he managed the situation better.

By the way I am not a Mancini out man, I want us to stick with him, its just this particular aspect of his personal managerial style I find doesn't appeal and in this situation its caused us a major problem - and a costly one.

You mean he should be like Arry? how many trophies has Arry won compared to Mancini in their respective managerial careers?

Twitcher has done pretty well considering the teams he's managed, plus he beat Mancini to 4th the season before last. As a man manager I much prefer Redknapp to Mancini - in fact I think he's a master at it - tactically Mancini is way out in front imo

 

[redmizzle]

Anyone who thinks we will be better off without a carlos tevez in our squad is delusional.

''If we want to improve like a team, like a squad, Carlos cannot play with us'' - Roberto Mancini.

 

[remoh]

Yes, thank fuck he got rid of those 3 troublesome clowns as well. I don't think we would have lifted the cup with that bunch of bad vibes around. Well done Mancini.

They were not 'troublesome clowns' under Hughes.

Correct but the team was shit! next.

True, but we've spent a fortune since then to change that, haven't we?
What's the value of the squad now, compared to then?

 

[ManCitizens.]

I have it on good authrority that Mancini is not well liked by a number of playrs in the dressing room (and not just the one's not being picked) and its easy to understand why. I have also been told that some of the players will back up Tevez that he didn't refuse to play.

Even Adam Johnsons comment when asked whether the manager said congratulations after his goal against Blackburn spoke volumes about some of the feelings that exist in the dressing room.

There's one thing being tough with players and showing who is in charge and there is another thing humiliating them - take droppng Lescott for a big game after some of his best performances - and him being the only one. What sort of message does that send to lescott ?

You can't argue with the results and as long as that continues of course everyone will support Mancini so this is merely sharing information that I have been told and my own observations not a Mancini must go rant.

You can be tough and show whos in charge but the surely the skill of a good manager is recognising that different players need different things and some need an occasional arm round the shoulder and some positive encouragement. Of course you don't have to like your manager but you can respect him, I'm not sure how much the players respect him but just toe the line. This is just one aspect of his management that I personally don't warm to.

I think Mancini has made a rod for his own back on this one, such that if we do happen to be low in numbers in the striking department due to injuries or suspension or they show a drop in form and results dip I guarantee people will use this incident as a stick to beat him. Anyone who thinks we will be better off without a carlos tevez in our squad is delusional.

Its always the same old with City fans knee jerk impestuous reactions. A majority on this board would have had Balotelli seen off from the club if they'd had their way. After his last two games thank god that didn't happen. We need to stop acting like spoilt children and recognise that football has changed and that players don't love the club in the same way we do, its a job (a great one and no doubt one they enjoy) where players can pick and choose where they work and have disagreements with managers as happens in all walks of life, and these disputes have to be managed sympathetically and professionally in the same way as any workplace.

I still maintain that Mancini should have painted a different picture of the dispute and one which would have left the door open to a reconciliation.

Would Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho, Van Gaal or Guardiola leave the door open if a player refused to play?

Tevez played much less for Utd and still came on as a sub and scored a lot of important goals. He wouldnt dare do what he did last Tuesday at Utd. If he didnt do anything wrong then why did he come out and apologise? Surely he has nothing to apologise for (according to the rat and Tevez).

Since last season ended.

1. Tevez again asked to leave

2. Season starts

3. In 4 league games Aguero scores 6 and Dzeko score 6

4. Tevez isnt happy that he is dropped (he openly said after Munich he isnt happy and deserves to start because he was top scorer last season.)

What do you think tevez would have done if he scored 6 in 4 and was then dropped for a player that had disrespected the club he played for over and over again?

Our manager and club have been publicy embaressed time and time again by Tevez, even the city of Manchester has been slated by this twat that grew up in a shed. If he gets away with this then the players will know they can do anything with consequences. I do agree Mancini needs to allow celebration after good results etc (after the Final for example) but he he isnt the 1 to blame for this.

But other clubs have had players slate their club and they're still playing for their clubs Modric, Rooney, Samba, Fabregas for a year.

What makes us so 'different' granted I'm not condoning anything Tevez has done or said but no one can deny that despite all this he has been our talisman for the last two seasons - surely Mancini owes him some loyalty just for this.

He has to go, but whilst he is here then he should be used as despite starting slowly this year he has always given his all for the team and done his talking on the pitch.

In fact more recently the noises were that he was much happier off the pitch now his family had joined him.

I disagree that it sends a message that players can do what they want. Mancini has proven enough times that he has the toughness required he's proven it time and again with Bellamy, Adebayor, Onouha, Bridge - how many more times does he need to ostracise a player to prove he's the boss ?

If they haven't got the message by now they never will !!!

This is all about how you 'manage' the situation, unfortunately its PR and if its managed well all sides could still come out with their reputations intact.

Sorry m8 but your an idiot, you need to stop letting people like Kia fill your head with shite.

When he was permanently playing he was unhappy because the wife that he cheated on wouldn't live in England. Maybe he should have kept it in his pants or been loyal? His problem and reason to leave was because of family reasons.

Now that he isnt playing football his family suddenly fly over and are ready to live in England. Tevez isnt happy because he isnt playing as much football this time despite slating the club, the manager and the city on countless times. Hes not playing because Dzeko and Aguero have been better (not because of what he did btw). Then (this is the best bit) because he isnt happy about not starting and playing football he refusing to come on as a sub and play.... well football.

YCNMIU

 

[Marvin]

You spend record sums in a few pressurised windows, and then change manager and you are bound to have players unsettled when they lose their place.

I am not certain that Mancini's style is to put his arm around players shoulders and be their best friend, but each manager has his own style and the bottom line is not whether a manager is well-liked by his players, but results. And if a team is successful, the manager is bound to have the players respect.

Mancini's standing in the English game has never been higher, and that is remarkable considering that just 12 months ago Bluemoon used to go into meltdown every weekend with the message board split down the middle

 

[bumbleblue]

I must be one of the delusional ones then. I think our team would be much worse with carlos tevez remaining in it. He is ,as has been pointed out many times, a bad influence around the club. Mancini is the man for this job he has swept the moaning whining egotists away and is building something special, i think... ,lets back him to get on with it. It will be a very poor message to send out if there is no stand taken with old carlitos.

 

[Bill]

the club has to back mancini, if not it would be the biggest mistake since the club gave allison a free reign back in the 70's.

would knock us back 5 years, in malcom's case the error was only put right in september 2008.

 

[awest]

the club has to back mancini, if not it would be the biggest mistake since the club gave allison a free reign back in the 70's.

would knock us back 5 years, in malcom's case the error was only put right in september 2008.

Spot on.

 

[remoh]

Yes, thank fuck he got rid of those 3 troublesome clowns as well. I don't think we would have lifted the cup with that bunch of bad vibes around. Well done Mancini.

They were not 'troublesome clowns' under Hughes.

Just fucking clowns then eh?

This season may give us the answer to that question.