If the rot continues what happens ?

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

it is starting to make the pep renewal decision slightly peculiar now. We need a complete refresh, and I’m not sure him extending for another couple years gives us that.

we’ve clearly made a mistake after two months of bad form. The best manager in the world probably isn’t the best person for a refresh

 

[Brunswick Blue]

nevermind the 110 charges if this form continues we will religate ourselves and save the premier league the problem.

 

[Axel Freed]

It’s quite poignant that the match that finally brings home to roost what a mess we’re in (even to happy clappers like myself) should be a derby against one of the worst rags teams in living memory.

With the benefit of hindsight it now seems clear that the cup final catastrophe wasn’t only due to some over the top celebrations in the days before the game. It was more a case of the whole squad being mentally and physically spent from the efforts of doing something unparalleled in English history over the previous 4 seasons. They had nothing left on that day and they’ve got nothing left now.

I might not have spotted this but the guys in charge should have.

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

nevermind the 110 charges if this form continues we will religate ourselves and save the premier league the problem.

110? Do you know something we don’t? ;)

Things are looking up after all!

 

[M23 Citizen]

Its not the norm to fall of a cliff form wise.

It is. It’s completely normal.

Like I said a few pages back:

It is very sad, but it’s completely normal.

We’re the only team who has retained the title since 2008-09.

I’ve said a number of times that winning the league title even once takes a monumental effort:

2013 United Champions, 2014 7th
2015 Chelsea Champions, 2016 10th
2016 Leicester Champions, 2017 12th
2017 Chelsea Champions, 2018 5th

City after 100pts and 98pts in 2018 and 2019 (with a domestic quadruple) - 2020 81pts
Lpool after 99pts and 97pts in 2019 and 2020 (with 2CL finals, winning one) - 2021 69pts
Lpool after 92pts in 2022 (and a CL final) - 67pts in 2023

1968 City Champions, 1969 13th
1937 City Champions, 1938 relegated.

Can go through history and see it happening regularly.

1981 Villa Champions, 1982 11th (although they won the EC).
1991 Arsenal Champions, 1992 4th, 1993 10th.
1992 Leeds Champions, 1993 17th.

Yet we’ve won four in a row and been to 2 CL finals, winning one, and won a host of other trophies. The drop off this season is not unexpected after those efforts. Let’s just work hard as a club and a set of fans behind them to get into the Top4.

It’s actually unusual to keep challenging at the very top year-after-year. Only George Ramsey, Revie, Paisley, Ferguson, Wenger and Guardiola have ever achieved it over more than 5 consecutive years in English football history.

Clough didn’t, Busby didn’t, Shankly didn’t, Mourinho didn’t, Klopp didn’t, Kendall didn’t, Robson didn’t, Chapman didn’t, Cullis didn’t, Mancini didn’t, Pellegrini didn’t, Mercer didn’t, Wild didn’t…

The snugness in our backroom staff congratulating each other after the 40 million off loading of Palmer to Chelsea is one reason for our recent drop off, complacency in the recruitment department. A few years ago we would of been snapping at Madrid's heels for Mbappe these days were asking Wolves for Nunes.

I do agree, but like I also said a few pages back:

Peaks and troughs happen, and have with us throughout this era.

We signed excellently between 2009-2011 (on the whole) and then followed it up with Maicon, Sinclair, Rodwell etc.

Signed well again in 2013 but followed it up with Bony and Fernando.

Signed excellently between 2015 and 2017 (on the whole) and then followed it up with a bunch of hits and missed.

Time to take it seriously again and have an excellent run of signings.

One thing to learn from Txiki’s time at the club, is to keep improving even when we’ve achieved big things. But I have every faith the club will turn it around and Pep will win more with City.

 

[mancityscot]

Yeah let's sack Pep because of a bad two months. Who cares about the decade of domination....

That’s really not what I’m saying at all mate, I would never want him sacked.
We could lose every game from now until the end of the season and I’d still never want him sacked.

I think I was just a bit surprised about the 2 year renewal. I felt that it was probably a good time to go our separate ways, as it’s clear we’re needing a complete rebuild. Pep will always have my full support after everything he’s given us though, no doubt about it.

 

[argyle]

That’s really not what I’m saying at all mate, I would never want him sacked.
We could lose every game from now until the end of the season and I’d still never want him sacked.

I think I was just a bit surprised about the 2 year renewal. I felt that it was probably a. good time to go our separate ways, as it’s clear we’re needing a complete rebuild. Pep will always have my full support after everything he’s given us though, no doubt about it.

I got you. I misunderstood.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Our worst run under Stuart Pearce was 2 wins in 12 games, at the end of the 2005/6 season as far as I can see. If we lose at Villa on Saturday, we'll have 1 win in 12.

 

[blue for life]

I think I will have a self imposed media ban this week. Might help my state of mind!

 

[chiswick blue]

It is. It’s completely normal.

Like I said a few pages back;


It’s actually unusual to keep being at the top year-after-year. Only George Ramsey, Chapman, Paisley, Ferguson, Wenger and Guardiola have ever achieved it over more than 5 years in English football history.

Clough didn’t, Busby didn’t, Mourinho didn’t, Mancini didn’t, Pellegrini didn’t, Mercer didn’t, Shankly didn’t…



I do agree, but like I also said a few pages back;

there has been hubris in the recruitment last summer and this is not altogether mitigated by the uncertainty surrounding Pep. As has been mentioned Nunes hasn't been good enough and we've been happy to recruit 2/3rd tier players that in the past wouldn't have been considered.

This is a dip of 2 months and it will stop with the return of our defense even though I cannot see us going on a winning streak of 13/14 games. So cutting to the chase when will the rot effectively stop I would predict end of Jan/ start of Feb with dramatic improvements as early as next week if Stones and Akanji can play