Sorry, but it is not realism, to be so convinced that this team with this manager that has won 7 trophies in the last two years is that far away from finishing in the top 4. May happen, who knows, but to think it that firmly at this stage, is just pessimism.
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If the rot continues what happens ?
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There's not one point in there that doesn't have, unfortunately, an element of legitimacy.Dour much?
There's not one point in there that doesn't have, unfortunately, an element of legitimacy.
Don't particularly disagree, but the same goes for the counterpoints he was responding to. And both ignore how good this tram has been and really is, this spell aside. I don't believe there are 4 teams better than us this season, even with a terrible couple of months. I don't buy that this will last all season.
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I think the late victory at Newcastle last January not only changed our perceptions for the season, but also papered over a few cracks.
Firstly we were lucky to only be 2-1 down at Half Time and Walker had been outpaced and outthought for both goals.
Then our two subs changed the outcome, and the nature of our last minute victory created some momentum.
Unfortunately De Bruyne's impact has since been marginalised whilst Bobb returned to the periphery and then got injured (in the same week that we sold Alvarez) just as he seemed destined for a decent run.
Meanwhile Walker's downward trajectory has accelerated and our injury prone defenders have returned to type
Whether this is just a bad run of form or something completely worse will probably be determined over the Christmas period with three games against teams in the lower half of the table
Firstly we were lucky to only be 2-1 down at Half Time and Walker had been outpaced and outthought for both goals.
Then our two subs changed the outcome, and the nature of our last minute victory created some momentum.
Unfortunately De Bruyne's impact has since been marginalised whilst Bobb returned to the periphery and then got injured (in the same week that we sold Alvarez) just as he seemed destined for a decent run.
Meanwhile Walker's downward trajectory has accelerated and our injury prone defenders have returned to type
Whether this is just a bad run of form or something completely worse will probably be determined over the Christmas period with three games against teams in the lower half of the table
hilts
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I said it may happen you've said it may happen, convinced? The reading comprehension on here sometimes:-)Sorry, but it is not realism, to be so convinced that this team with this manager that has won 7 trophies in the last two years is that far away from finishing in the top 4. May happen, who knows, but to think it that firmly at this stage, is just pessimism.
Pmsl
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Brilliant. Base our defensive strategy on three injury-prone players being fit plus Dias who is slightly less injury-prone.It's really that simple. If you have three of Stones, Dias, Akanji and Ake continuously fit we are in a title race (and probably coming up a bit short).
It would work of course, but having three of the four fit at the same time rarely happens.
It surely can't mate and I think even with the accrued injuries we're all a bit shocked, maybe even alarmed, at the past 2 months performances and results. There is a very good chance though that elements of this team has had it's day. We can acknowledge this and at the same time be grateful for it's achievements. We're better placed than most of, if not all, the other clubs to be successful in the long term. This short term slump we're in could really do with ending now though.Don't particularly disagree, but the same goes for the counterpoints he was responding to. And both ignore how good this tram has been and really is, this spell aside. I don't believe there are 4 teams better than us this season, even with a terrible couple of months. I don't buy that this will last all season.
Blueknows
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Problem at the time he had mahrez and silva ahead of him and pep couldn't guarantee him a regular startAn attitude of wanting to play and win...
Daft him ain't he..
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Didn't Palmer leave at the same time as Mahrez, and the same summer we bought Doku?Problem at the time he had mahrez and silva ahead of him and pep couldn't guarantee him a regular start
the blue panther
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The thread asks "If the rot continues, what happens?"
If it goes on for another month, Pep will walk, I believe - because it would mean that he hasn't been backed in some way or other. I can't see that happening, but, he will have learnt that he can't put himself in this position again. So many events have conspired against him, but, many of them were foreseeable, and preventable. The chief lesson is that you must have a more bloated squad to guard against a crisis like this, especially if you don't intend to rely on youngsters. Especially as, season after season - if we remain at the top - our players are always going to be short of a proper break in the summer.
Ultimately, it will be stopped by several signings in January; the return to fitness of several defenders plus Bobb getting fit; and let's hope that young Echeveri when he arrives turns out to be the new Maradonna!
Losing Rodri - our Ballon D'Or man - is the equivalent of losing 2 world class players. Add that to the loss of Foden so far this season, due to injury and illness, then KDB, and you've ripped the heart from last season's midfield, which a bunch of other ageing squad members have been unable to cover, exposing a dodgy back five for what it really is.
I've written-off the Villa match, so it's looking like 1 win in 12 - I hope I'm wrong.
Everton come to the Etihad on Boxing Day, getting a free hit at us. Let's hope Santa stops the rot for us in the meantime.
If it goes on for another month, Pep will walk, I believe - because it would mean that he hasn't been backed in some way or other. I can't see that happening, but, he will have learnt that he can't put himself in this position again. So many events have conspired against him, but, many of them were foreseeable, and preventable. The chief lesson is that you must have a more bloated squad to guard against a crisis like this, especially if you don't intend to rely on youngsters. Especially as, season after season - if we remain at the top - our players are always going to be short of a proper break in the summer.
Ultimately, it will be stopped by several signings in January; the return to fitness of several defenders plus Bobb getting fit; and let's hope that young Echeveri when he arrives turns out to be the new Maradonna!
Losing Rodri - our Ballon D'Or man - is the equivalent of losing 2 world class players. Add that to the loss of Foden so far this season, due to injury and illness, then KDB, and you've ripped the heart from last season's midfield, which a bunch of other ageing squad members have been unable to cover, exposing a dodgy back five for what it really is.
I've written-off the Villa match, so it's looking like 1 win in 12 - I hope I'm wrong.
Everton come to the Etihad on Boxing Day, getting a free hit at us. Let's hope Santa stops the rot for us in the meantime.