Ilkay Gundogan - 2017/18 performances

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I think we need an upgrade unfortunately,while he's tidy he doesn't dictate or influence greatly,he'd be more suited to an Arsenal midfield.
 
I think we need an upgrade unfortunately,while he's tidy he doesn't dictate or influence greatly,he'd be more suited to an Arsenal midfield.

I think we see eye to eye on about everything.

I do want to disagree with you here in a way because I think Ilkay is a good fit for the locker room and is an almost perfect squad player. Yeah?
 
I think we see eye to eye on about everything.

I do want to disagree with you here in a way because I think Ilkay is a good fit for the locker room and is an almost perfect squad player. Yeah?
I'm really not convinced,he is our go to player when injuries/suspensions occur and i just think the drop off in quality is too great for a club competing at the highest level.In regards the dressing room,is he even a character? i obviously dont have access but from what i see on social media etc...he appears somewhat of a shy/loner type.

Just to add,i think he's done wonderful achieving even this level given his injuries.
 
Probably get pelters for this but I thought Wilshere, a player he is sometimes compared to, looked the much better of the two today. Hope he improves as he seems a great guy but it’s not quite happened for him. May have an opportunity to prove the doubters wrong with Ferny probably out for a month or so.
 
Probably get pelters for this but I thought Wilshere, a player he is sometimes compared to, looked the much better of the two today. Hope he improves as he seems a great guy but it’s not quite happened for him. May have an opportunity to prove the doubters wrong with Ferny probably out for a month or so.
wiltshire spent the entire time trying to get dinho sent off and wasn't interested in playing football,he did nothing to influence the game in any way.stealing a living
 
wiltshire spent the entire time trying to get dinho sent off and wasn't interested in playing football,he did nothing to influence the game in any way.stealing a living

Thought he was good first half, did some good interplay and won some good free kicks. He is an odious little twat but I would like to see what Pep could do with him, out of contract in the summer too...
 
Sorry for this dippery pun!

But don’t throw the candle out after a two minute burn, as there’s plenty more times for it too be enjoyed!
That’s an old, sheep shaggers proverb!
 
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