Ilkay Gundogan - 2017/18 performances

[waspish]

Why has Pep not tried him in the right he even put kdb there our best player out on the right before Him.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Dropping Bernardo to the bench and moving the best CM in the league, out to the RW was an incredible show of faith in Gundogan from Pep. Gundogan didnt come remotely close to repaying the manager. 1st half, everything looked so disjointed with him in the centre of the park and KDB wasnt able to influence the game at all. KDB moving into the middle and Gundogan dropping into a position where he didn't have to do anything, gave us far more control. Gundogan is a passenger, playing in a very good side. He will pop up with a few goals and grab the odd assist but when his competition is Silva and KDB, quite frankly there is no competition.

 

[City_Sean]

Dropping Bernardo to the bench and moving the best CM in the league, out to the RW was an incredible show of faith in Gundogan from Pep. Gundogan didnt come remotely close to repaying the manager. 1st half, everything looked so disjointed with him in the centre of the park and KDB wasnt able to influence the game at all. KDB moving into the middle and Gundogan dropping into a position where he didn't have to do anything, gave us far more control. Gundogan is a passenger, playing in a very good side. He will pop up with a few goals and grab the odd assist but when his competition is Silva and KDB, quite frankly there is no competition.

It's hard to disagree but I wonder if there is a more mental issue with Gundogan at the mkment. I'd imagine that suffering the injuries he's had would have quite a psychological effect on him.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

It's hard to disagree but I wonder if there is a more mental issue with Gundogan at the mkment. I'd imagine that suffering the injuries he's had would have quite a psychological effect on him.

I expect the mental aspect is very much an issue with Gundogan. I feel for the guy in that sense but I want the best for the team and the club. The thought of him starting a CL final for us makes me shudder.

 

[Dage]

Well, he probably won't risk the World Cup for a challenge, that mostly doesn't decide the match at all while the club is 1st in the league, dominating. Pep continues to start/play him so no going all in tacklings also could be an order by the team's doctor or even Pep himself.

Gundogan is always free to receive the ball, which means, he's more or less running away from the opponents when City attacks. That's why some of you think he's ghosting, in reality he delivers options for his team mates and sets up pre assists left and right. He's involved in most goals when he's playing.

No, he's not a Lampard and won't be one. He's a very European style player and gets not the love he deserves in this place. At least Pep knows what he has in Gundogan so I predict him to get his fare share of playing time in the future, even without going into every stupid tackling like a maniac.

 

[pride in battle]

Well, he probably won't risk the World Cup for a challenge, that mostly doesn't decide the match at all while the club is 1st in the league, dominating. Pep continues to start/play him so no going all in tacklings also could be an order by the team's doctor or even Pep himself.

Gundogan is always free to receive the ball, which means, he's more or less running away from the opponents when City attacks. That's why some of you think he's ghosting, in reality he delivers options for his team mates and sets up pre assists left and right. He's involved in most goals when he's playing.

No, he's not a Lampard and won't be one. He's a very European style player and gets not the love he deserves in this place. At least Pep knows what he has in Gundogan so I predict him to get his fare share of playing time in the future, even without going into every stupid tackling like a maniac.

He's not the type of player to fly into tackles but if he's not winning the ball back he has to be so much better when on the ball, he lost it about half a dozen times in the first 20 min, a better side would have punished us.

 

[Dage]

That's true, I agree but tackling is just a part of modern defending. Moving as a team, pressing and forcing interceptions are important as well. He does that very well and eagerly but he doesn't have many spectacular ball winning situations. But imo that doesn't mean he is not good at defending or ball winning. Pep would be the first to blame him for lazy attempt in this regard but he hasn't till now, I at least haven't read anything about that, have you? The whole team is transforming to a very European style under Pep, that also includes different perception of the players by fans and isn't always easy. Gundogan isn't at his best game yet - I recognized he's still missing quickness on these crucial first 3 to 5 meters, he also hasn't reached his old passing range and accuracy and probably won't until start of next season if he stays healthy and has playing time on a regular basis. But imo one thing is certain: Gundogan will only get better from where he's now, that of course includes also occasional subpar performances. But this has nothing to do with his general ability and I'm sure he will be an important part of the team for years to come.

 

[Dr Jacoby]

Pep’s obviously a big fan but his work rate, careless passing and decision making in the final third is somewhat disconcerting.

And where’s his best position? CM? AM? Or somewhere else?

If he’s seen primarily as a playmaker then Bernardo should be ahead of him at the moment.

 

[Alex - City Matters]

Ilkay is evidently the new boo-boy for some.

 

[Tevez City]

I think he will do well replacing Fernandinho