immigration yay or nay

[Forzacitizens]

under a conservative government yes, under a labour government which seeks to "change the face of british society for ever" absolutely not

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

1) most of the older builders I know (well not most but a lot) moaned about the Poles initially which I found rather funny as I knew for a fact 3 of them had worked in Germany in the 1970's for months at a time because the money was better and they shared houses 3 to a room!

2) Economic migrants should be welcomed with open arms. The reason why the USA is so successful today is because the people who went over initially were poor, hungry risk takers. They chose to leave everything behind and wanted to make a success of their lives.

3) I think the 'first safe country' law on asylum seekers needs to be enforced harshly-i.e if you life was in danger and you fled, why trek all across France and try and cross the channel to the UK-smacks of them knowing we're a soft touch on scroungers.

4) Immigrant communities add a lot to the country in terms of culture, foods, music, sport etc. However I do feel that we should try and instill a sense of pride in them at being English once they are a citizen. Just look at the second names of the USA football team-all immigrant families but all immensely proud of being American.

I can't believe I'm saying this to a BB2.0 post, but I absolutely agree with all of this

Do you feel as dirty as I do??

 

[BluePurgatory]

"Coming over ere taking our bloody jobs" is just one of the gems that was hurled at my closest mate the other day while we were in liverpool centre. It got me thinking, my mate's dad moved here from bangladesh in the 80's, with only a place to sleep on a floor and a job dishwashing at his uncle's restaurant. Today, he own's 3 indian restaurant's, and 2 take away's. My mate (early 20's) own's his own 120 seater one as well and has a share in a take away in wigan.

What's your take on immigration? Just to get started i'm all for those who want to work and contribute to society, those who just see a 'free' place to live and 'free' money can stay away in my opinion!

I think it goes with anything in the country:

As long as your not gonna take the piss (or if you're going to contribute, to use your better words) your fine by me.

We were all immigrants at one stage or another, and people that do want to live here from outside the UK want to do so because they're own country isn't as good as ours - which makes me proud to be English to be honest, as I see it as an honour to live in a place which so many wish they could live.

The strange thing is, there is a number of my friends who don't see it like this and use the paranoid 'it's not what Englands about' or some other tosh. And I look at the main guy who has this view and he has a Irish clover on his left arm because of his heritige. Now to me the Irish (no offence to those on here) are just as much foreigners as the Poles or Asians. In fact being a Mancunian I know which country as attacked my city more, but lets not get into all that shite. And then two of my best mates have Italian in them, two have Polish (with one of these having Finish in them too), and a few others also grasp onto there great great great grandparents living in Dublin 4000 years ago so they can celebrate St. Patricks day. I am, in my opinion the most English of all my mates. I was born in Manchester, to Mancunian parents, who's parents were born in Manchester - none of the rest of them can say anything similar, yet I'm the one with the most pro-immigration views.

How can you say the Irish are just as much foreign as poles or asians. The Irish are Celts and were here before the anglo saxons and the roman mancunian?

 

[Bill]

"Coming over ere taking our bloody jobs" is just one of the gems that was hurled at my closest mate the other day while we were in liverpool centre. It got me thinking, my mate's dad moved here from bangladesh in the 80's, with only a place to sleep on a floor and a job dishwashing at his uncle's restaurant. Today, he own's 3 indian restaurant's, and 2 take away's. My mate (early 20's) own's his own 120 seater one as well and has a share in a take away in wigan.

What's your take on immigration? Just to get started i'm all for those who want to work and contribute to society, those who just see a 'free' place to live and 'free' money can stay away in my opinion!

this by a country mile.

if you dont pay in you should not get paid out.

 

[bluetom]

Yay! Theyre people first, and like everyone else some good some bad. Theyve done our team a hell of a lot of good!!

For me, if there is the space and need then I welcome them; this is an immigrant country.

What is odd is how brown/eastern european (often Nurses, doctors, cleaners etc) migrants are villified as "immigrant" scroungers whilst the nice white Australian and Kiwi - who make up a large proportion of london's immigrants are labelled "expats" and are largely ignored by the tabloids.

My key concern is Dannii Minogue, I dont understand her purpose here.

 

[squirtyflower]

yes for anyone who is an economic migrant

 

[waterloo blue]

Someone can have my place, left for Australia in 95 and have no intention of coming back.
As an immigrant to another country though you would be suprised at how much stick you get,but it's only Aussies so not exactly razor sharp wit,plus I'm a big lad so only ever had one physical encounter and that was with a greek supervisor on a mine site(in fairness he'd played under Tommy Docherty at Sydney Olympic,so no wonder he hated poms).
When I arrived here though I wasn't entitled to any benefits for two years and I honestly think that's the way to go ,15 years later never had any yet.

 

[ono]

2 warning, 3 bans.

 

[Fame Monster]

Ultimately, Britain is a piece of land. If it's economically practical, welcome to the land of Clerk-Maxwell, Keats and Moat, Mr. Gabujajay.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

Controlled informed immigration YES

Forced multiculturalism -NO