Independent Article - City's Identity - Feels spot on :(

[BillyShears]

I feel a little disenfranchised but only because of us having a manager who has been desperately poor for so long (IMO) and knowing that nobody at the club would do anything about it until they could get Pep in. Basically the club have tried to just coast through to this summer knowing Pellegrini isn't the right man for the job so it isn't a great surprise that it has led to insipid, apathetic performances on the pitch and subsequent apathy in the stands. It is difficult to get excited going to a match when you feel like nobody at the club gives enough of a shit about the current season. I don't buy into most of the stuff in that article though and think once Pep is here and we see that the players and management at the club are back to giving a proper shit about things, the stadium will feel very different very quickly. I hope as a club we learn from this. It's all very well to have succession planning but we can't have a season of limbo every time a manager is coming to the end of his time and when a manager is consistently underperforming, just sitting on your hands and hoping for the best is not fucking good enough even if you do have another manager lined up for 12 months, 6 months or even 3 months time.

Personally I think the fans could do with learning some lessons from this season too. There's been far too much "the sky is falling" bollocks which opens the door to media dickheads like Ogden to reinforce it. We need to show a little more backbone and a little more perspective. We all have known Pep is coming for ages, and we all know that he will have a monumental impact upon the entire club. If it takes 12 months of pain to get a guy like that into the club we should be embracing it, not whining like fuck every chance we get about how hard it's been this season.

 

[Akira]

Yes hopefully this season is a one off. At least the club are making a change and bringing in a manager who can hopefully inject a new attitude into the players. Pep is a winner, he will bring that attitude with him. Wenger is too stubborn to ever be a winner again and Arsenal just plod along in the knowledge that until he is gone, things won't change for them.

Yeah. It just showcases the board's lack of ambition cuz Wenger's overdue for a sacking.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Sorry but that's utter nonsense.

Without Garry Cook we would probably not have the best owner in football.

Man City fans owe a great gratitude to Mr Cook

Perhaps you're right mate

 

[Keeper!]

Perhaps you're right mate

No Problem.

And no city fan should forget the nasty, vindictive Bar Steward who forced the very reluctant Chairman of MCFC to sack Mr Cook.

Mr Ian Wright.....a disgraceful man

 

[cucumberman]

Maybe an aside, I would like to say that I'm glad that I lived through supporting us in the lower divisions and thought that a top 10 finish in the league was something to be really proud of. I never expected us to be more than that and tbh was content to be a mid table club for years to come. It gives a sense of being grounded and being there for the football not the bragging rights. I can't say the same for rag supporters I knew who are consoling each other at the thought of not ever wanting to watch a game of football again. Tough life.

 

[BillyShears]

Maybe an aside, I would like to say that I'm glad that I lived through supporting us in the lower divisions and thought that a top 10 finish in the league was something to be really proud of. I never expected us to be more than that and tbh was content to be a mid table club for years to come. It gives a sense of being grounded and being there for the football not the bragging rights. I can't say the same for rag supporters I knew who are consoling each other at the thought of not ever wanting to watch a game of football again. Tough life.

Well said. You'll get told off though by some smart arse for not being "ambitious" enough. It seems we're not allowed to be happy with our lot anymore unless we win a big trophy every season.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Personally I think the fans could do with learning some lessons from this season too. There's been far too much "the sky is falling" bollocks which opens the door to media dickheads like Ogden to reinforce it. We need to show a little more backbone and a little more perspective. We all have known Pep is coming for ages, and we all know that he will have a monumental impact upon the entire club. If it takes 12 months of pain to get a guy like that into the club we should be embracing it, not whining like fuck every chance we get about how hard it's been this season.

I accept that there is a bigger picture but my point would be that there is no need to have 12 months of pain to get the next man in. There was absolutely no reason why we couldn't have done the ground work with Pep, got him completely lined up but not let things at the club feel like we were just treading water, waiting. If a manager is doing badly, he is doing badly, he shouldn't be guaranteed to keep his job until the summer just because we have a manager lined up. Other clubs use interim managers to pick things up a bit and there is absolutely no reason why we could not have done the same. I don't for one minute expect to win the league every season but if you think we need to seriously jeopardise our top 4 status just to get Pep in, I think you're wrong. And bottom line is whether you like it or not, if people aren't excited going to the match then they aren't excited. You can't expect people to pay their money, turn up and watch players and management look like they're going through the motions for 12 months and not be impacted by that, it is only natural. As I said, I think most of that article is horseshit, but in the very short term it is just a basic reality, if the club make it fairly clear that the current season doesn't matter quite as much as other seasons then all they are going to get is fans who reflect that. There's no learning lessons to be done by supporters, we will always, broadly speaking, reflect the efforts of those we are supporting, they put it in, we will put it in. Maybe those supporters who travelled down to Southampton only to be treated with contempt by a manager with his team selection and a group of players strolling around not giving a shit should learn their lessons and realise that it's all necessary to get Pep in? And whilst Southampton was an extreme example, the whole season has felt a little that way. It'll all pick up once this season is over but if we miss out on top 4 because we tried to muddle through there will still be a lingering sourness for me and I would imagine for a lot of other supporters too.

 

[blueinsa]

Well said. You'll get told off though by some smart arse for not being "ambitious" enough. It seems we're not allowed to be happy with our lot anymore unless we win every single trophy every season.

Edited for accuracy mate.

 

[BillyShears]

I accept that there is a bigger picture but my point would be that there is no need to have 12 months of pain to get the next man in. There was absolutely no reason why we couldn't have done the ground work with Pep, got him completely lined up but not let things at the club feel like we were just treading water, waiting. If a manager is doing badly, he is doing badly, he shouldn't be guaranteed to keep his job until the summer just because we have a manager lined up. Other clubs use interim managers to pick things up a bit and there is absolutely no reason why we could not have done the same. I don't for one minute expect to win the league every season but if you think we need to seriously jeopardise our top 4 status just to get Pep in, I think you're wrong. And bottom line is whether you like it or not, if people aren't excited going to the match then they aren't excited. You can't expect people to pay their money, turn up and watch players and management look like they're going through the motions for 12 months and not be impacted by that, it is only natural. As I said, I think most of that article is horseshit, but in the very short term it is just a basic reality, if the club make it fairly clear that the current season doesn't matter quite as much as other seasons then all they are going to get is fans who reflect that. There's no learning lessons to be done by supporters, we will always, broadly speaking, reflect the efforts of those we are supporting, they put it in, we will put it in. Maybe those supporters who travelled down to Southampton only to be treated with contempt by a manager with his team selection and a group of players strolling around not giving a shit should learn their lessons and realise that it's all necessary to get Pep in? And whilst Southampton was an extreme example, the whole season has felt a little that way. It'll all pick up once this season is over but if we miss out on top 4 because we tried to muddle through there will still be a lingering sourness for me and I would imagine for a lot of other supporters too.

All of that is in your opinion. I respectfully disagree with nearly all of it.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

All of that is in your opinion. I respectfully disagree with nearly all of it.

I would be more worried if you agreed with it to be honest.