Injuries.

[Zabbadabba Blue]

Vinny was limping out of the private hospital last Thursday

 

[Deleted member 58678]

This is really interesting, from the guy who did Physio Room.

@BenDinnery: No team travelled further during the close season than #MCFC Almost 40k miles. City have lost the most days to injury so far this term [...]

@BenDinnery: [...] while in stark contrast #WAT #WHUFC and #NCFC who travelled the least <500 miles are amongst the best performers so far this season

@BenDinnery: In the summer of 2014 #NUFC covered the most miles during pre-season (24.6k) - of any PL side - and finished with the worst injury record

And not just this but we played on a cricket pitch (even NRL rugby league players complain when they have to play on cricket pitches as the turf is not of sufficient standard even for a high collision sport like RL), baseball pitches and other shite grounds over the years in our pre-season tours.

Many of us have complained about our pre[total lack of preparation]-seasons over the last few years and i think they're getting worse.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

I blame it all on the international break. Was basically the start of all our troubles.

But we already had Clichy Zaba Delph and Fernando out from the start.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

And not just this but we played on a cricket pitch (even NRL rugby league players complain when they have to play on cricket pitches as the turf is not of sufficient standard for a high collision sport like RL), baseball pitches and other shite grounds over the years in our pre-season tours.

Many of us have complained about our pre[total lack of preparation]-seasons over the last few years and i think they're getting worse.

Our pre-season should be about getting everyone fit and moving towards peak condition for a long & demanding season, not whoring ourselves out to corporate sponsors, travellling tens of thousands of miles and playing on cabbage patches. We should be based at the Campus, where we have all the right facilities and play a few warm-up games in the UK and Europe.

 

[I_maysveryown]

But we already had Clichy Zaba Delph and Fernando out from the start.

Delph recovered only to be knocked out while on international duty.

 

[Hiley rated]

Yes, it's ironic that we have these top notch facilites but when we need them most, ie pre-season, we're thousands of miles away. I know it's not just MCFC that do this. It would be interesting to do it all from the campus one pre-season and see if it has any effect or not on how the season pans out regarding injuries.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Our pre-season should be about getting everyone fit and moving towards peak condition for a long & demanding season, not whoring ourselves out to corporate sponsors, travellling tens of thousands of miles and playing on cabbage patches. We should be based at the Campus, where we have all the right facilities and play a few warm-up games in the UK and Europe.

I honestly also think it's time to cut something from our calendar or number of sides here in England.

Either:
Cut the Premier League to 18 teams and start the season in-line with the Transfer Deadline Day. Give us some more time to get the players who've been away on International duty in Copas/Euros/World Cups back and fit again instead of giving them no pre-season and have them playing half fit from the start. None of this ridiculous 8th August lark anymore.

Or just start the season in line with Deadline Day anyway and give us a few midweek games through the season

Or do away with the FL Trophy and make the FL Cup (Capital One Cup whatever it's called at the moment) a cup for all sides who didn't qualify for European competition only.

Or go with Damocles' view on not playing first teamers in the FL Cup until the semi-finals (yes, almost sacrificing it) or unless we play United earlier. This competition is just a bonus, if we get to the semis fine let's go for it but if we don't, sow what? it wasn't even mentioned as being part of Soriano's "Five trophies in five years" - use it to our advantage with developing our younger players and fringe players.


And i totally agree that we should not be travelling around the world and playing on terrible pitches for pre-season. It should be the time of preparation to get the players ready for the season, we can invite potential sponsors to Premier League games throughout the year for free, it's not like the corporate areas are ever full is it? Base ourselves out of the CFA. Travel to some nice Mediterranean or Alpine training complexes and have a few games around Spain Austria and Germany on decent pitches.

 

[mancity1]

As best I recall only Delph was injured on tour and we started the season with the four mentioned above unavailable.

Silva , Kun, Delph again , Zaba , Clichy, Fernando , Nasri, Bony, Nacho, Kompany have been injured either injured during the season , in the lead up to the season at home or in some cases during training for matches.

Only Silva and Kun have had impact injuries to the best of my knowledge so its more about those players themselves most of them Zaba and Bony aside suffering from regular muscle / soft tissue injuries over a long period of time which we don't seem to have any program in place to minimise /prevent from continual reoccurance.

We toured and have done covering miles in planes for many a season and in 2011/2012 we had few long term injuries to deal with.

How we train and maybe where we train and in what footwear might have more to do with it than what we do in the off season I would suggest.

 

[City Raider]

As best I recall only Delph was injured on tour and we started the season with the four mentioned above unavailable.

Silva , Kun, Delph again , Zaba , Clichy, Fernando , Nasri, Bony, Nacho, Kompany have been injured either injured during the season , in the lead up to the season at home or in some cases during training for matches.

Only Silva and Kun have had impact injuries to the best of my knowledge so its more about those players themselves most of them Zaba and Bony aside suffering from regular muscle / soft tissue injuries over a long period of time which we don't seem to have any program in place to minimise /prevent from continual reoccurance.

We toured and have done covering miles in planes for many a season and in 2011/2012 we had few long term injuries to deal with.

How we train and maybe where we train and in what footwear might have more to do with it than what we do in the off season I would suggest.

Whilst true, I think what injury experts like the one who runs PhyioRoom are saying is that it's not just about the matches. There is a link between travel and occurence of injury. You're more likely to get injured after long spells of travel/time zones etc.

The fact the first international break comes so quick after the season starts compounds it more.

 

[Sergio Picasso Aguero]

Good to see Zaba and El Mago back. Next big one to get back is Vinny.