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Churchlawtonblue said:
Apologies, I meant to say weakest first team midfield regular. Gundogans passing us quick because it is mostly sideways and no where near as adventurous as the rest of them.
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Sometimes you don't need to force passes though. Gundogan often passes short to pull people out of position. Watch the goal vs United and see his movement after his short passes. It's very deliberate.

Foden against West Ham is an example of a player trying to force everything with passes that weren't on. We have players like Silva, KDB and Bernardo (as well as Foden) that do this and sometimes you need a player that rarely gives it away because they play it safe and move players around like Gundogan.
 
I think Foden is good enough, he's just not physically up to it yet, he needs a few more steak puddings.
He gets muscled off whereas Bernie nor Spanish Dave ever get pushed off. We need some bite in midfield and I don't think hes got that in his locker yet.
JMO
 
xirtarg said:
Sometimes you don't need to force passes though. Gundogan often passes short to pull people out of position. Watch the goal vs United and see his movement after his short passes. It's very deliberate.

Foden against West Ham is an example of a player trying to force everything with passes that weren't on. We have players like Silva, KDB and Bernardo (as well as Foden) that do this and sometimes you need a player that rarely gives it away because they play it safe and move players around like Gundogan.
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Thanks, I will look at that more closely next time.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Panic over, when pep leaves we have @Churchlawtonblue to step up to the touchline

Thank fuck for that
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You have to take into account that a lot of people watch the game once, and the blood is pumping and they aren't taking everything in. Snidey comments aren't necessary most of the time, just an explanation as to what they might be missing or why you don't agree with their point :)
 
This is a forum to discuss different points of view is it not? Or is it a place where happy clappers can gather and say how wonderful things are all the time.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Well it's kind of obvious lol, have a think about it ! Conversley if he thought he was better than those that start ahead of him I would have thought he would be starting ahead of them!
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Christ on a bike we’ve got some fucking lettuces following this club.

He’s a kid. He’s being treated like most at his age should be amongst a world class squad. There will be a plan in place for him.

Quite how you arrive at the conclusion that Pep doesn’t think he’s good enough is, well I have no words.

Give yourself a shake.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
This is a forum to discuss different points of view is it not? Or is it a place where happy clappers can gather and say how wonderful things are all the time.
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It ain’t happy clapping. When you spout absolute fucking shite you are going to be called out on it. Same as the donut yesterday who thought Spanish Dave should be dropped.

If you haven’t the common sense to see that the words leaving your mouth are going to make noise then your probably best not posting.
 
xirtarg said:
You have to take into account that a lot of people watch the game once, and the blood is pumping and they aren't taking everything in. Snidey comments aren't necessary most of the time, just an explanation as to what they might be missing or why you don't agree with their point :)
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Soft lad.
 
xirtarg said:
You have to take into account that a lot of people watch the game once, and the blood is pumping and they aren't taking everything in. Snidey comments aren't necessary most of the time, just an explanation as to what they might be missing or why you don't agree with their point :)
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There is nothing to take into account......... if ones 'blood is pumping' over a certain player starting over an inexperienced 'kid', who is being managed excellently, regardless of subjectivity, then sport in general isn't for them...... the very fact he's endorsing your post with a 'like', shows the IQ, brah

That snidey? enough?
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
There is nothing to take into account......... if ones 'blood is pumping' over a certain player starting over an inexperienced 'kid', who is being managed excellently, regardless of subjectivity, then sport in general isn't for them...... the very fact he's endorsing your post with a 'like', shows the IQ, brah

That snidey? enough?
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Seems pretty childish, but to each their own. I meant the blood is pumping over the actual game, not over one player. I just don't see the need to constantly insult each other given that we all support the same team to be honest. Or say "brah" ;).
 
xirtarg said:
Seems pretty childish, but to each their own. I meant the blood is pumping over the actual game, not over one player. I just don't see the need to constantly insult each other given that we all support the same team to be honest. Or say "brah" ;).
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You interjected on a narrative that was clearly an underhand dig from one of our glorious supporters, yet you choose to pick up on someone calling them out on it....

Just to end with, brah, this is a football forum, insults are common place and i'd highlight your dislike for the whole charade with the post count you've had in some 10 years... taking offense to ones opinion on a player, regardless of its delivery, really isn't going to make one lose any sleep....
 
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Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
You interjected on a narrative that was clearly an underhand dig from one of our glorious supporters, yet you choose to pick up on someone calling them out on it....

Just to end with, brah, this is a football forum, insults are common place and i'd highlight your dislike for the whole charade with the post count you've had in some 10 years... taking offence to ones opinion on a player, regardless of its delivery, really isn't going to make one lose any sleep....
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I take no offense at it. It doesn't really bother me in all honesty, I just don't understand why it's needed. I didn't see it as an underhand dig, I saw it as him preferring one player over the other, and I've already had that discussion with him, without the insults :)

If you want to insult people, that's fine by me, carry on. Not really sure what post counts has to do with it, but hey ho, if that's how life is measured then all I can say is "ok".

Have a nice day :)
 
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