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Have a read of this, very interesting.

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & Sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "P### Poor"
But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to pee in" & were the lowest of the low
The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ...... . Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting Married.
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof... Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.
Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.
England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive... So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.
And that's the truth....Now, whoever said History was boring?
 
Have a read of this, very interesting.

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & Sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "P### Poor"
But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to pee in" & were the lowest of the low
The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ...... . Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting Married.
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof... Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.
Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.
England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive... So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.
And that's the truth....Now, whoever said History was boring?
Interesting stuff.
Thanks for posting.
 
Lovely bit of imaginative creative writing there.
Tomatoes were first cultivated in England in the 1590s.
Within 150 years they were part of the staple diet of most people.
So no avoiding for 400 years.
As for dirt floors, it wasn’t just the poor, even the Tudor rich had dirt floors.
Hence the design of Tudor furniture with cross bars low down to stop them sinking any further into the soil/mud.
 
Tomatoes were first cultivated in England in the 1590s.
Within 150 years they were part of the staple diet of most people.
So no avoiding for 400 years.

according to the gospel that is wiki, somewhere in between the two would seem about right, apparently a relative of belladonna and deadly nightshade? I knew there was a reason I didn't like the buggers

"Britain
Tomatoes were not grown in England until the 1590s.[29]:17 One of the earliest cultivators was John Gerard, a barber-surgeon.[29]:17 Gerard's Herbal, published in 1597, and largely plagiarized from continental sources,[29]:17 is also one of the earliest discussions of the tomato in England. Gerard knew the tomato was eaten in Spain and Italy.[29]:17 Nonetheless, he believed it was poisonous[29]:17 (in fact, the plant and raw fruit do have low levels of tomatine, but are not generally dangerous; see below). Gerard's views were influential, and the tomato was considered unfit for eating (though not necessarily poisonous) for many years in Britain and its North American colonies.[29]:17

However, by the mid-18th century, tomatoes were widely eaten in Britain, and before the end of that century, the Encyclopædia Britannica stated the tomato was "in daily use" in soups, broths, and as a garnish. They were not part of the average person's diet, and though by 1820 they were described as "to be seen in great abundance in all our vegetable markets" and to be "used by all our best cooks", reference was made to their cultivation in gardens still "for the singularity of their appearance", while their use in cooking was associated with exotic Italian or Jewish cuisine.[33]"
 
Probably of no interest to anyone else but this thread just reminded me that I had a shit just before I jumped in the shower so didn't flush it and forgot to flush it when I got out of the shower. Wouldn't want my wife to have to see that first thing in the morning. Thanks.
 
Probably of no interest to anyone else but this thread just reminded me that I had a shit just before I jumped in the shower so didn't flush it and forgot to flush it when I got out of the shower. Wouldn't want my wife to have to see that first thing in the morning. Thanks.

How is her sense of smell?
 
In the Navy in the days of Nelson , prostitutes would be carried on board and they would be accommodated on the gun decks . If a baby was born onboard and the father could not be established then they were deemed as a "son of a gun".
 
Also the phrase "cold enough to freeze the balls of a brass monkey" is a naval term as well . The brass monkey was a stand/holder for the cannonballs, and in cold weather the brass contracted and didn't hold the cannon balls in place and the balls would fall to the deck .
 
A couple of years ago I was in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for a wedding. There is the remnant of an old British fort, Fort Pitt, named after Pitt the Elder and where Pittsburgh gets its name from. I vaguely knew there'd been some sort of battle for supremacy between Britain and France in the area but didn't realise the full significance of the place. It had been a French fort but after a series of unsuccessful British attacks, the French eventually abandoned it. Pittsburgh was a very strategic location as it's the confluence of two rivers which form the Ohio River and which then controlled the key access to the Mississippi River from the colonial settlements of the eastern seaboard.

The original British colonial force, with Native Americans, was sent to take it but failed and withdrew to the south. A small French force was sent to negotiate but was ambushed by the British force and, controversially, it seems that many of the French force were killed after they surrendered. The French obviously weren't happy and sent a bigger force against this British unit, which they defeated.

This effectively kicked off a global war, the Seven Years War from 1756 to 1763 that involved conflicts in all five continents. This included the infamous Black hole of Calcutta incident, Clive of India establishing British supremacy in India, the famous attack by General Wolfe on Quebec, the rise of Prussia in Europe, an attack on Manila, battles between the Spanish & Portuguese in South America and other conflicts. It was the true first world war, 150 years before the war we know as World War 1. The British were undoubtedly the winners from this war, controlling North America, India and much of the Caribbean, and it really kicked off the age of Empire.

But to get back to those first skirmishes around what's now Pittsburgh though, the commander of the British militia was descended from an English family who'd gone to the new colony of Virginia from Sulgrave, near Northampton, 100 years earlier. He was held to be largely responsible for these humiliations involving the French, and to be a bit of a coward, and consequently was sidelined when the British beefed up their forces, which he'd expected to command.

His name was George Washington and that sidelining started his deep resentment of the British. He became a leader in the fight for independence and 20 years after his effective demotion, he became the first US President.
 
Apparently the mildly offensive term 'Berk' comes from a shortened cockney rhyming slang term "Berkley hunt"..

Not entirely sure this is true but it kind of could be..
 

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