Ireland (Merged)

Re: Treatment of Ireland

Smelly Cnut said:
Celebritykiller said:
You mean it's becoming a regularity that the manager decides a player isn't good enough to do the job he's supposed to be doing?

Glad to hear i tbh.


He was never given a chance. He was always going to be through the door whatever happened. He should have been given a decent amount of games. Just wait till he finds his form at Villa. Stevie will have the last laugh.

You could be right... I'm not doubting that could happen

What I'm saying is it's the managers job to have a team that perform, and he has decided Ireland doesn't fit the bill. That's not being fucked over, that's a manager doing his job.

Other players that have been fucked over by your reasoning Jo, Kelvin Etuhu, Logan, Santa Cruz, Stuart Taylor.

How about we start them all against Liverpool, they only need a run of games right?
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

Smelly Cnut said:
Milners had a decent season. What happens if his form dips? We get rid of him and go for someone else who had a decent season?

Ireland is the better player. But thats doesn't matter anymore, hes gone and Milners in.

Question: How long should we have waited for Ireland's form to return? Yeah, Milner could lose his form, but Ireland has no form at the moment.

Mancini probably doesn't fancy losing his job because he's carrying dead weight in the hope that they will perform some day.
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

Smelly Cnut said:
Milners had a decent season. What happens if his form dips? We get rid of him and go for someone else who had a decent season?

Ireland is the better player. But thats doesn't matter anymore, hes gone and Milners in.

Bollocks is Ireland the better player. Milner has been consistently improving since he made his debut for Leeds and he can play in a whole number of different positions. Ireland has had one decent season and he is pretty much a one trick pony. Ireland himself has admitted that he can only play in one position and recently has hasn't even done that very well. I don't want to slag him off because he is an academy player and a talented footballer but sadly he isn't good enough for us.
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

borninm14 said:
He loved the club so much that he was having talks with the rags during the summer.

As he was last summer. It was always his dream to rejoin the Rags, he used us to prove to them he was, ahem 'Good enough' so he could get a move back there. Not worked out though has it. Maybe when he fails with Villa and the Rags are desperate they might sign him for about a million next year or the year after.
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

Smelly Cnut said:
Heres a player who adores City and their fans and wears our shirt with pride, and hes treated like shit. We've shelled out 20 odd million, plus Stevie. Absolute joke of a decision and makes us look like fucking idiots. I just hope Stevie doesn't think he wasn't appreciated here at City 'cause he really was. Good luck pal, you got fucked over, and its becoming a fucking regularity.


Rant over, on with supporting Milner and the team.

Sorry, thought it was a thread relating to the historical and fractious association between Great Britain and Ireland beginning in 1170 when Richard de Clare began his invasion of Ireland at the behest of the Irish King of Lenister.

Sorry, my mistake.
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

NewbBlue said:
Smelly Cnut said:
Milners had a decent season. What happens if his form dips? We get rid of him and go for someone else who had a decent season?

Ireland is the better player. But thats doesn't matter anymore, hes gone and Milners in.

Question: How long should we have waited for Ireland's form to return? Yeah, Milner could lose his form, but Ireland has no form at the moment.


We let Ireland go for basically fuck all. Fair enough pay over the odds for Milner, but thats what we have to do atm, but Ireland should have stayed. Offered competition.
 
Re: The end of Superman...

I'm sad to see Stevie go, he was a real favourite of mine, I even had his name and number on my shirt before he'd made his first team debut.

I know he could be inconsistent and drift out of games but never the less I still always got great pleasure from watching him play. At times his touch was as good as anyone i've ever seen.

I really hope it all works out for him at Villa.
 
Re: An Apology

Ireland looked lost with all the change that was going on around him. Whether that is where the mental flaw in his character was exposed i don't know but games just passed him by last season. The majority of his goals and assists came through his link up play with Robbie and it was a joyous season that he had in 08/09 but he can be too easily stifled in games for me.

There just isnt enough drive and passion in his play and Milner isnt his replacement its Silva. We desperately need Milner to compliment what we already have in midfield. This lad is hard as nails, wont stop running, will support the forwards all day long, get us 10 goals in all comps and still be back to defend his own goal. He is going to be our favourite player and will really bond with the fans. A northern lad with a passion that we will all embrace more than all the star names. Welcome James, make us great. Good look Stevie Ireland say hello to Dunnie from us all.
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

Milner - much stronger mentally and makings of a club captain, a model professional (no bling bling, crazy cars, fake granny deaths), far more versatile than Ireland who is useful in one position in one system

Used to love Superman and will fondly remember what he did for our club - but one season out of how many? Milner's career has been one of constant improvement and adaptation to new roles, Ireland had just the one good season and couldn't continue it. We have signed the better player.
 
Re: Treatment of Ireland

Smelly Cnut said:
NewbBlue said:
Question: How long should we have waited for Ireland's form to return? Yeah, Milner could lose his form, but Ireland has no form at the moment.


We let Ireland go for basically fuck all. Fair enough pay over the odds for Milner, but thats what we have to do atm, but Ireland should have stayed. Offered competition.


I see where you're coming from.

But again, I have to ask. So who goes off so that Ireland can stay?

If you were Mancini, a man tipped to lose his job by Christmas if he doesn't perform well, would you keep an underperformer in the hopes he performs?

I never wanted to get rid of Ireland, but the twat league rules made us trim the roster to 25 men. You have to understand Mancini's fears considering how much pressure he is under, and the fact that he probably would have kept Ireland had there not been a 25 man restriction.
 

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