Ireland need Superman, Ireland need Superman!!!!

So can we just clear up a few facts?

England have a big chance of winning the World Cup in 2010.
Ireland won't qualify for it but fuck it they will have a laugh in a local pub.
and Stephen Ireland is fucking quality and such a top top lad.
 
Immaculate Pasta said:
So can we just clear up a few facts?

England have a big chance of winning the World Cup in 2010.
Ireland won't qualify for it but fuck it they will have a laugh in a local pub.
and Stephen Ireland is fucking quality and such a top top lad.


Will you give it a rest now you angry little man and stop stirring shit.
 
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Immaculate Pasta said:
So can we just clear up a few facts?

England have a big chance of winning the World Cup in 2010.
Ireland won't qualify for it but fuck it they will have a laugh in a local pub.
and Stephen Ireland is fucking quality and such a top top lad.

All of these!
 
Stephen Hunt doing his best on SSN to make Ireland feel that he made the right decision to stop playing internationals.
What a twat.
 
Just that the players don't really care if he comes back, if it happens it happens. If it doesn't it doesn't.

Interviewer then asked him about the concept of other people doing the hard work, and Ireland coming in when the hard work was done, and he just said thats a decision the manager has to make.

Didn't say anything groundbreaking but (IMO) I thought he made his feelings obvious and did absolutely nothing to make Ireland feel that he would be welcomed back.
 
moomba said:
Just that the players don't really care if he comes back, if it happens it happens. If it doesn't it doesn't.

Interviewer then asked him about the concept of other people doing the hard work, and Ireland coming in when the hard work was done, and he just said thats a decision the manager has to make.

Didn't say anything groundbreaking but (IMO) I thought he made his feelings obvious and did absolutely nothing to make Ireland feel that he would be welcomed back.

When the rumours first surfaced about bullying in the camp, it was Stephen Hunts name that was mentioned. If there was any truth here, you'd expect an indifferent reaction from Hunt.
The thing I don't get is Stevies club captain is a senior player for Ireland and probably their most respected player to boot. I can't see Dunne letting abuse get too much out of hand, more to it than meets the eye. I reckon the whole grannygate affair and the subsequent embarrassment are at the root of this.
 
blue_paul said:
moomba said:
Just that the players don't really care if he comes back, if it happens it happens. If it doesn't it doesn't.

Interviewer then asked him about the concept of other people doing the hard work, and Ireland coming in when the hard work was done, and he just said thats a decision the manager has to make.

Didn't say anything groundbreaking but (IMO) I thought he made his feelings obvious and did absolutely nothing to make Ireland feel that he would be welcomed back.

When the rumours first surfaced about bullying in the camp, it was Stephen Hunts name that was mentioned. If there was any truth here, you'd expect an indifferent reaction from Hunt.
The thing I don't get is Stevies club captain is a senior player for Ireland and probably their most respected player to boot. I can't see Dunne letting abuse get too much out of hand, more to it than meets the eye. I reckon the whole grannygate affair and the subsequent embarrassment are at the root of this.

But Dunne doesnt strike me as a leader and a vocal man at all, he isnt on the pitch for City! He might be respected for his performances for the last 8 years but is he really a leader of men? Would he stand up to people for bullying someone else - he doesnt strike me as that sort of person! Listen to him in his regular interviews on Manchster Radio and he is a quietly spoken gentle sounding guy, would this type of person stand up to bullys?

As ive said i think Ireland is a genuine good guy and seems to put his heart and soul into his football career, he has done exactly that so far with City so i think there is defo something that has gone on to stop him doing that for his counrty cos otherwise i think he would be 100% with them!
 
superman has had problems with the Irish set up since under age. It goes back to a few years ago under Brian Kerr when he was breaking in the City team.

He was asked to come over and play by Kerr in a friendly in Cobh in his hometown and Stevie said no as he breaking in the City team.

I think Kerr and Pearce convinced him to come over and Kerr left him on the bench for the game in front of all his mates and family in his hometown, I think that is where all this started, or so I have heard.

Anyway for what it's worth I think Mr.Ireland will be wearing the green jersey in September.
 
danburge82 said:
blue_paul said:
moomba said:
Just that the players don't really care if he comes back, if it happens it happens. If it doesn't it doesn't.

Interviewer then asked him about the concept of other people doing the hard work, and Ireland coming in when the hard work was done, and he just said thats a decision the manager has to make.

Didn't say anything groundbreaking but (IMO) I thought he made his feelings obvious and did absolutely nothing to make Ireland feel that he would be welcomed back.

When the rumours first surfaced about bullying in the camp, it was Stephen Hunts name that was mentioned. If there was any truth here, you'd expect an indifferent reaction from Hunt.
The thing I don't get is Stevies club captain is a senior player for Ireland and probably their most respected player to boot. I can't see Dunne letting abuse get too much out of hand, more to it than meets the eye. I reckon the whole grannygate affair and the subsequent embarrassment are at the root of this.

But Dunne doesnt strike me as a leader and a vocal man at all, he isnt on the pitch for City! He might be respected for his performances for the last 8 years but is he really a leader of men? Would he stand up to people for bullying someone else - he doesnt strike me as that sort of person! Listen to him in his regular interviews on Manchster Radio and he is a quietly spoken gentle sounding guy, would this type of person stand up to bullys?

As ive said i think Ireland is a genuine good guy and seems to put his heart and soul into his football career, he has done exactly that so far with City so i think there is defo something that has gone on to stop him doing that for his counrty cos otherwise i think he would be 100% with them!

Good points Dan but remember it was Dunne who confronted Barton after the row with the teenage Everton fan in Thailand which just shows he's step in when needs be!

I also think our things may have gone a bit over the top by some of the players but I think it's a culmination of factors in relation to Stevie's absence. As alluded to by Sdavros in theprevious thread, he had problems with Kerr too. Maybe he's just said enough is enough. He probably has a lot of negative feeling surrounding issues with the national team now in stark contrast to his popularity with all things City.

It's a bloody terrible situation. Get Ireland and Stephen Reid in that midfield and we've a decent side.
 
blue_paul said:
danburge82 said:
blue_paul said:
moomba said:
Just that the players don't really care if he comes back, if it happens it happens. If it doesn't it doesn't.

Interviewer then asked him about the concept of other people doing the hard work, and Ireland coming in when the hard work was done, and he just said thats a decision the manager has to make.

Didn't say anything groundbreaking but (IMO) I thought he made his feelings obvious and did absolutely nothing to make Ireland feel that he would be welcomed back.

When the rumours first surfaced about bullying in the camp, it was Stephen Hunts name that was mentioned. If there was any truth here, you'd expect an indifferent reaction from Hunt.
The thing I don't get is Stevies club captain is a senior player for Ireland and probably their most respected player to boot. I can't see Dunne letting abuse get too much out of hand, more to it than meets the eye. I reckon the whole grannygate affair and the subsequent embarrassment are at the root of this.

But Dunne doesnt strike me as a leader and a vocal man at all, he isnt on the pitch for City! He might be respected for his performances for the last 8 years but is he really a leader of men? Would he stand up to people for bullying someone else - he doesnt strike me as that sort of person! Listen to him in his regular interviews on Manchster Radio and he is a quietly spoken gentle sounding guy, would this type of person stand up to bullys?

As ive said i think Ireland is a genuine good guy and seems to put his heart and soul into his football career, he has done exactly that so far with City so i think there is defo something that has gone on to stop him doing that for his counrty cos otherwise i think he would be 100% with them!

Good points Dan but remember it was Dunne who confronted Barton after the row with the teenage Everton fan in Thailand which just shows he's step in when needs be!

I also think our things may have gone a bit over the top by some of the players but I think it's a culmination of factors in relation to Stevie's absence. As alluded to by Sdavros in theprevious thread, he had problems with Kerr too. Maybe he's just said enough is enough. He probably has a lot of negative feeling surrounding issues with the national team now in stark contrast to his popularity with all things City.

It's a bloody terrible situation. Get Ireland and Stephen Reid in that midfield and we've a decent side.

Given would be more of a voice in the Irish camp then Dunne, both are pretty vocal, everyone gets the piss taking out of them, if it's not happening then you should be worried, this bullying crap is bullshit, and tbh other players like Given, like Dunne, or the management or whoever..etc wouldn't put up with it either.
I think it's just Ireland not wanting to play for his country and looking for an excuse.
He pulled down his shorts in front of a massive crowd and tv cameras..etc. He's not that sensitive.

And people want him back, will there be a sense of it's unfair if he comes back and someone who's worked hard, looses their place, after helping Ireland this far in their group, yes, probably, but that'll probably go in the space of 5 seconds if he plays well.
I mean, he's problems with the Irish set up, the FAI in general, so what so did Roy Keane and he played, was sent home (didn't leave outta choice like Ireland, he was the best player and most succesful player in that squad and he didn't have any sense of superiority like Ireland seems to.) and then came back. And I don't think there's anyone out there who hates the FAI more.
 
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A51473720" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A51473720</a>

lots of ridiculous comments about stevie. as well as going from just pink wheels to an entire pink range rover, the worst suggesting that dunney was involved in the bullying. some fuckers want putting straight !
 
bobmcfc said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A51473720

lots of ridiculous comments about stevie. as well as going from just pink wheels to an entire pink range rover, the worst suggesting that dunney was involved in the bullying. some fuckers want putting straight !

Don't know what you're getting so wound up about, one person said it, more are saying he should grow up, or that there was no bullying at all.
The rest are a few idiots fighting between themselves, nothing much insulting about Ireland.
 
Macca:

Go and read Roy Keanes interview with Tom Humphries in the Irish Times prior to his departure from Saipan and you'll see why he was sent home. He wouldn't apologise for his expletive ridden rant against the manager in front of the squad saying his conscience was clear and you blame the gaffer for sending him home?? Words fail me!!

Although there was issues on all sides, ultimately the situation arose, was exacerbated and not solved due to Roy Keane and that is fact.

Are you from Cork?
 
IrishMacca said:
bobmcfc said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A51473720

lots of ridiculous comments about stevie. as well as going from just pink wheels to an entire pink range rover, the worst suggesting that dunney was involved in the bullying. some fuckers want putting straight !

Don't know what you're getting so wound up about, one person said it, more are saying he should grow up, or that there was no bullying at all.
The rest are a few idiots fighting between themselves, nothing much insulting about Ireland.

i've read plenty of threads on 606 discussing stephen ireland and the majority of them were stating what a disgrace ireland is and how he should never wear the shirt again. start a stephen ireland thread on there and all the wankers come out of the woodwork
 
blue_paul said:
Macca:

Go and read Roy Keanes interview with Tom Humphries in the Irish Times prior to his departure from Saipan and you'll see why he was sent home. He wouldn't apologise for his expletive ridden rant against the manager in front of the squad saying his conscience was clear and you blame the gaffer for sending him home?? Words fail me!!

Although there was issues on all sides, ultimately the situation arose, was exacerbated and not solved due to Roy Keane and that is fact.

Are you from Cork?

I'm not getting into that, but all that happened because of crappy facilities, crap grounds, the ground was like cement, someone was going to get injured, there was no equipment when they got there, not even footballs..etc. The interview was honest, as typical Keane, it was a catalyst.
What happened happened because Mick McCarthy confronted him in front of the entire squad.
But like I said I'm not getting into it.

And ya, I'm from Cork, and we all get grief because of association.
 
IrishMacca said:
blue_paul said:
Macca:

Go and read Roy Keanes interview with Tom Humphries in the Irish Times prior to his departure from Saipan and you'll see why he was sent home. He wouldn't apologise for his expletive ridden rant against the manager in front of the squad saying his conscience was clear and you blame the gaffer for sending him home?? Words fail me!!

Although there was issues on all sides, ultimately the situation arose, was exacerbated and not solved due to Roy Keane and that is fact.

Are you from Cork?

I'm not getting into that, but all that happened because of crappy facilities, crap grounds, the ground was like cement, someone was going to get injured, there was no equipment when they got there, not even footballs..etc. The interview was honest, as typical Keane, it was a catalyst.
What happened happened because Mick McCarthy confronted him in front of the entire squad.
But like I said I'm not getting into it.

And ya, I'm from Cork, and we all get grief because of association.

Have we seriously turned this into a county thing now??? come on fella's, we're all blue!!
 

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