Is it time to unmask the muslim woman?

depps said:
TheLegendOfBerti said:
as seen on here plenty of times there's the same little group of lefties who argue on every thread and never accept they're wrong, well whatever, call me what you want I believe they should be banned, I don't care what you think that makes me.

Go on so Berti make a convincing argument why they should be banned.

Explain to me why peoples freedom to wear what they like should be taken away from them?

because it's not freedom when from an early age women have been indoctrinated to be ashamed of showing their face in public and live in fear of being found by their husband not wearing it in front of other people, also female suicide bombers in Afghanistan & Iraq, the fact other western countries have banned them and the fact that christian women aren't openly allowed to wear crosses round their necks whilst muslim women can wear veils. Also reading the 2 stories in the OP the double standards are shocking, this isn't a muslim state and should be allowed to be manipulated to be as such.
 
slicky202 said:
Banned Tosspot said:
Do these people work?
nah probably claim of the state
sic. learn to spell please.<br /><br />-- Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:10 pm --<br /><br />The headscarf is a common sign of a persons religious belief in most religions. the black headscarf and veil worn by Italians and Greeks. Catholic nuns etc. Are you going to ban them all?
 
depps said:
MadchesterCity said:
100% AGREE

Another example of soft touch Britain - leading to the influx of Muslims into the UK and the future possibility of Britain becoming a muslim run state in years to come

Don't believe this is possible look at Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Phililipines, India and other countries who are being stripped of their traditions and religion in favour of Muslim belief systems.

Malaysia and Indonesia are majority Muslim countries and have been for hundreds of years you donkey. The others have had sizable Muslim minorities for hundreds of years and are in no danger of being overrun by Muslim radicals. In fact the biggest problem in India is Hindu chauvinists initiating pogroms against the Muslims there, much like what used to happen to the Jews in eastern and central Europe.

But of course ignorance is bliss and the big bad Muslims are out to rule the world.

Nope you are wrong, I am not ignorant - far from it!!

East Malaysia was never a muslim country until the influx of Muslims there

South of Thailand is currently under threat by Muslim extremists in the South where they are encroaching on Thailand.

Mindanao and Sulu Arcipalego and islands like Bohol and to a lesser extent Palawan in the Philippines have all became Muslim areas taking over local cutoms.

The population of Muslims in India is on the increase

I think you will also find a lot of examples of Islamic extremists causing problems in Africa also: Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations have hidden effectively in various African states (including Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, South Africa, Cote D'Ivoire, Mauritania and Sudan)

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2008/01/africa_islam_87.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads ... lam_87.jpg</a>

And we haven't discussed any of the Russian states
 
totallywired said:
slicky202 said:
nah probably claim of the state
sic. learn to spell please.

-- Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:10 pm --

The headscarf is a common sign of a persons religious belief in most religions. the black headscarf and veil worn by Italians and Greeks. Catholic nuns etc. Are you going to ban them all?
Headscarves are fine. They show the face; we know who is wearing it, but with a burka... anyone could be under there.
 
If you ban the burka, how are you going to tell if they "might" be carrying a bomb or not? ;O).....Oh hold it, the're brown aren't they? Tsk, silly me.

I can't remember. Can anyone remind me whether we banned Irish accents in the seventies?
 
ElanJo said:
rickmcfc said:
Well said, the most sensible statement on this thread. I do hope you are ready for the "political correctness" numpties amongst us who will attempt to shoot you down in flames, but will obviously fail as they still have not answered my very interesting point so i will ask it again. Why do they wear it when it is not even part of their religion?

It's my position at least that the owners of shopping centres should be allowed to request that someone in a Burka remove it (just the head portion heh) before entering. If the Burka wearer declines then they shouldn't be allowed in. The same goes for "Hoodies" if they so choose.
The reason why Burkas are treated differently is because there's this idea around that religious beliefs are exempt from criticism, and the Burka is seen (rightly or wrongly) as a religious identity. Also, because of this people are afraid of getting sued whereas they aren't with "Hoodies".
Burkas should be treated no different imo, tho the owner of the shop is the one who should decide (I think they'd agree if they were allowed to)

That's not making the Burka illegal tho.
The difference being if you asked a female to take their hood down they'd do it with a fuss, if you asked a woman to remove a Burkha you'd then not be doing your job but be a racist.
 
Berti

you're on my I disagree with everything you say whether I agree with it or not list
 
-dabz- said:
If you ban the burka, how are you going to tell if they "might" be carrying a bomb or not? ;O).....Oh hold it, the're brown aren't they? Tsk, silly me.

I can't remember. Can anyone remind me whether we banned Irish accents in the seventies?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1296152/Syria-bans-burka-niqab-universities.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ities.html</a>
Many are said to be in favour of a wider ban on burkas and niqabs from all public places.
Syria has banned face-covering Islamic veils from the country’s universities.'Hijabs and niqabs have been a symbol of oppression and religious extremism over the past hundreds of years. They have been a tool used by fundamentalist men to repress women,' said Ahmed, a 32-year-old engineer.
One passer-by in an upscale Damascus suburb said the burka to him was like a ‘walking black ghost.’t did not include the hijab, or headscarf, which many Syrian women wear.
Since when did a Muslim have to be "brown"o clueless one.
 
TheLegendOfBerti said:
because it's not freedom when from an early age women have been indoctrinated to be ashamed of showing their face in public and live in fear of being found by their husband not wearing it in front of other people,
I agree with you that that is not freedom. However, you can't force people to be free, that's something they have to figure out for themselves. And frankly since it doesn't do you or anybody else any harm personally its none of your business. That is the basic principle of a free society.

TheLegendOfBerti said:
also female suicide bombers in Afghanistan & Iraq, the fact other western countries have banned them and the fact that christian women aren't openly allowed to wear crosses round their necks whilst muslim women can wear veils.
What do suicide bombers in Iraq and Afghanistan have to do with banning Burqas in the UK? Anyway, the make suicide bombers in Iraq and Afghanistan seem to be doing just fine as well without Burqas. Also why does the fact that other western countries have done it make it right? The Germans used to have a thing for killing Jews, did that make that right?

Where are christian women not allowed to wear crosses? I'm pretty sure I've seen plenty of christian women wearing crosses in schools, banks, walking down the street etc? If there is someplace where christian women are prevented from wearing crosses in the UK then that rule should also apply to muslim women as well (although personally I don't think either set of people should be prevented from wearing what they want)

TheLegendOfBerti said:
Also reading the 2 stories in the OP the double standards are shocking, this isn't a muslim state and should be allowed to be manipulated to be as such.

The double standards are shocking Bert, but at what point was it a women in a Burqa that made those shocking decisions? Even if it was a women in a Burqa can you demonstrate a link between her double standards and the fact that she likes to cover here head with a bit of cloth?

As for the UK turning into a muslim state, all I can say is lol. 2.7% of the population is Muslim Bert, and the vast majority of them are either non-practicing or moderate muslims. I don't think you need to worry just yet about being forced to live under sharia law.



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