Is Mancini adapting his Inter tactics? [Tactics talk]

I have this growing feeling that City fanz need to stop considering NDJ as a default starter and consider him more in a rotation that match-to-match circumstances will dictate.
 
shroom said:
I have this growing feeling that City fanz need to stop considering NDJ as a default starter and consider him more in a rotation that match-to-match circumstances will dictate.
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I agree, I think so too. With Yaya and Barry/Milner, we have enough defensive talent to take on many of the teams. We'll still play the same formation, but instead of De Jong we'll pick a more offensively capable player and let Yaya slide down for defensive duties. But De Jong will be invaluable against the top-6 teams.

Once again, this is logical with the huge fixtures schedule we have. Yaya and Barry will have to be rested too. But as you said, De Jong might not be a default starter anymore anyhow, in matches where we're supposed to go offense (QPR, Swansea). It's still a mystery to me though, how De Jong used to be a winger in Ajax and apparently very skilled offensively is so afraid to take offense decisions. Cambiasso have a similar roll like De Jong, but was participating much more in offense. Crosses, passes. Not taking offense runs, but still participating.

Still love Nigel, he's very important to the club, squad and big matches.
 
Imo Mancini will always play the 4-3-3 system in the league.
3 off De jong, Barry, Razak, Milner and Yaya will play in the centre while 3 off Johnson, Tevez, nasri, Aguero, Dzeko, silva and ballotelli will compete for the forward roles. The only time I can see Mancini playing 4 attackers is home games against lower premiership teams or cup matches against lower league teams.
 
Outrun said:
Sounds very offensively minded. Silva won't track back and neither did Nasri in Arsenal (when he was a winger), so I doubt that would work in PL. Maybe against poor teams in the cups, but not PL.

With Aguero as attacking midfielder we'll be very thin in the middle, since neither Nasri and Silva will track back and help out. Judging by the first two matches this season, the wingers spend very little time backtracking. I mean, look at our corners - all three stay up. That's why the CM's are VERY Important, and playing Aguero there isn't the answer. Big work rate (Aguero) doesn't mean you automatically position yourself well, and even though Aguero might run around forever it still means the opposition will just pass themselves through.

I still think he'll continue playing Barry/Milner - De Jong - Yaya in the midfield. Nasri aswell, but as CM he'll have to focus on both backtracking and offense (like Yaya did last season).
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If you haven't been watching City, please do so now, and have a match just based on watching Silva. He does track back, alot.

And if you are concerned about tracking back, that's is the reason why we employ NDJ in midfield. NDJ rarely attacks, if not never, thus, when we fall back on our defence, there's a man covering the pitch.

Compared to employing Barry and Yaya. I see Barry more as a 'dictator' of passes rather than an 'anchorman', thus, Barry may sometimes leave a spot open. As for Yaya, needless to say, his main asset is attacking, thus, like a full back, Yaya has to pick opportunities on when to attack, and when he does, one of the attackers, I presume have to fall a little deeper to cover for him.

Believe it or not, NDJ's here to stay.

Of course, I'm not saying that because of his passion, commitment, etc. If so, we would be starting Zaba over Clichy anyday. We are arguing NDJ's case, because of NDJ's role in the team. He is a part of our defensive lynchpin and with him around, the defense line is much more shielded and protected.

I guess people just forget why we cry for Nigel when he was missing for just two to three matches last season.
 
Outrun said:
Roberto confirmed in this interview:
<a class="postlink" href="http://mcfc.co.uk/Video/Interviews/Mancini-on-Nasri" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://mcfc.co.uk/Video/Interviews/Mancini-on-Nasri</a>

That Nasri will be used both as CM and winger. Silva, on the other hand, is solely a winger. Hopefully people will stop writing that we'll play him above Yaya and De Jong then.

-- 24 Aug 2011, 21:59 --

Young said:
The best guess would be employing three attacking midfielders like this:

Silva -- Aguero -- Nasri

Nasri will play the same way as Silva but more central. Silva, as usual comes deep to collect the ball, but drifts wide. Aguero doesn't come down as deep, so he will act more like a second striker to Dzeko.


They will be supported by 2 defensive mids:

NDJ -- Yaya

They will continue to do what they do best, Yaya might revert to a more 'passer' role with the occasional license to steamroll forward.


With the absence of wings, the full backs have the responsibility to come forward often like they have been doing all along.


There, my guess:

NDJ -- Yaya
Silva -- Aguero -- Nasri
Dzeko
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Sounds very offensively minded. Silva won't track back and neither did Nasri in Arsenal (when he was a winger), so I doubt that would work in PL. Maybe against poor teams in the cups, but not PL.

With Aguero as attacking midfielder we'll be very thin in the middle, since neither Nasri and Silva will track back and help out. Judging by the first two matches this season, the wingers spend very little time backtracking. I mean, look at our corners - all three stay up. That's why the CM's are VERY Important, and playing Aguero there isn't the answer. Big work rate (Aguero) doesn't mean you automatically position yourself well, and even though Aguero might run around forever it still means the opposition will just pass themselves through.

I still think he'll continue playing Barry/Milner - De Jong - Yaya in the midfield. Nasri aswell, but as CM he'll have to focus on both backtracking and offense (like Yaya did last season).
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Seriously, have you ever watched Silva play for City?
 
can anyone who watched inter under mancini comment on if he used ibra like dzeko as the spearhead of a 4-2-3-1?
 
Thought I'd post the chalkboards for today's games...


Midfield.


Nasri

[bigimg]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9204/picture2rx.png[/bigimg]

Fantastic début. His face when Dzeko scored the 5th said it all.


Silva

[bigimg]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4599/picture3mhq.png[/bigimg]

Fair amount of work in his own half...


Barry

[bigimg]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8446/picture4kf.png[/bigimg]

Had a great game, again.


Yaya

[bigimg]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/650/picture5xe.png[/bigimg]

97 passes. 89 complete. Nuff said.



Full Backs


Zaba & Micah

[bigimg]http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/985/picture6ts.png[/bigimg] [bigimg]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7375/picture10ai.png[/bigimg]

Not much crossing but circulating the ball all along the flank.


Clichy

[bigimg]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1715/picture7wa.png[/bigimg]

More defensive than Zaba but still...



Strikers

Aguero

[bigimg]http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1075/picture8ml.png[/bigimg]

Nearly all short passes. His job is to run in behind though..


Dzeko

[bigimg]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6741/picture9oa.png[/bigimg]

Shows exactly what he brings to the team other than goals.



What a performance!
 
Silva & Nasri's chalkboards almost mirror each other. That is going to be deadly.

Dzeko's chalkboard is very revealing. Involved in linking the play and helping set the attack, not just waiting for a cross like Crouchy
 
I can say we are much faster breaking away and generally in the game without NDJ,he is needed against the Rags and Chelski definitely and other tough away games...
 
1.618034 said:
Thought I'd post the chalkboards for today's games...


Midfield.


Nasri

[bigimg]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9204/picture2rx.png[/bigimg]

Fantastic début. His face when Dzeko scored the 5th said it all.


Silva

[bigimg]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4599/picture3mhq.png[/bigimg]

Fair amount of work in his own half...


Barry

[bigimg]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8446/picture4kf.png[/bigimg]

Had a great game, again.


Yaya

[bigimg]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/650/picture5xe.png[/bigimg]

97 passes. 89 complete. Nuff said.



Full Backs


Zaba & Micah

[bigimg]http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/985/picture6ts.png[/bigimg] [bigimg]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7375/picture10ai.png[/bigimg]

Not much crossing but circulating the ball all along the flank.


Clichy

[bigimg]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1715/picture7wa.png[/bigimg]

More defensive than Zaba but still...



Strikers

Aguero

[bigimg]http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1075/picture8ml.png[/bigimg]

Nearly all short passes. His job is to run in behind though..


Dzeko

[bigimg]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6741/picture9oa.png[/bigimg]

Shows exactly what he brings to the team other than goals.



What a performance!
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Where you get that from?
 
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