Is Mancini Being Set Up?

I have a (pure stab in the dark, based on nothing other than gut feeling) thought that mancini is potentially the better manager and could bring the success that we all crave. Why on earth inter sacked him is bewildering given his record and clearly jose is proving that perhaps he is not so bloody special after all....

enjoy the ride!
 
PaleBlue said:
johnny crossan said:
Set up to swap.

We get the Special One, Inter get the Chosen One back.


Nurse!!! Tablets!!!


Shite - Mourinho won't come to City, he wants the Scum job. Why should Mancini go back to a club that sacked him despite his success. Much prefer Roberto to stay than have Mourinho inflicted upon us with his 'effective' (boring) football.

Shite - Mourinho won't come to City, he wants the Scum job
And you know that how ??? this threads getting like the tranfsfer/rumour forum,funny though.
 
bluemanc said:
PaleBlue said:
Shite - Mourinho won't come to City, he wants the Scum job. Why should Mancini go back to a club that sacked him despite his success. Much prefer Roberto to stay than have Mourinho inflicted upon us with his 'effective' (boring) football.

Shite - Mourinho won't come to City, he wants the Scum job
And you know that how ??? this threads getting like the tranfsfer/rumour forum,funny though.

Haven't you heard? Apparently he'd rather go to our debt ridden neighbours who have to sell before they can buy, with the ageing squad, and the hugely successful manager to follow.
 
I love a good conspiracy theory.

Billy is right on one score.

ADUG gave Hughes carte blanch. I have a sneaking suspicion that he glossed over the full extent of the injury problems that Lescott, RSC and Bellamy face (plus Toure's medical history, although that was in the public domain). Anyone remember the story that RSC failed a medical in January? The unceremonious dumping of the medical team in the summer, oooh, about a week before RSC joined? That big delay before the third bid for Lescott?

Not to mention a half-fit Kompany (there was at least one other, can't remember who) playing at Arsenal, and injuring himself for the biggest 3 games of the season last year. I vaguely remember the noises coming from the management team that they had been given 'incorrect medical information'.

and on the day Hughes is fired, Lescott's pre-existing condition is suddenly bad enough to keep him out of the team for 2 months? RSC has hardly been fit. Barry is revealed to need a hernia op... in fact all of a sudden a host of injuries are revealed and we are down to the bare bones.

So I find it easy to believe that 'ADUG' have decided they want a bigger say in how 'their' money is spent. Marwood is the best placed person to make these judgements, but that doesn't mean he will pursuing his own targets and the manager likes it or lumps it. Marwood holds the chips right now, but even tho Moses will be a Marwood signing, Viera is clearly a Mancini signing. It's a matter of consensus and compromise. If Mancini does well, then the pendulum will swing his way. still, 'ADUG' will always have the last word, and Marwood and (to a lesser extent) Cook will still have their say. Whatever happens, there is no evidence so far that 'ADUG' are intent on pursuing 'their' own targets. No sign of a Kaka or Robinho.

'Marwood against the Adebayor signing' is interesting, tho. I had it down as Cook wanting a huge african star before the S.A tour.... and Ade just didn't seem like a typical Hughes 'character'. but on the friday before hughes was sacked, in a memorable appearance on R5 live, in defending Hughes' record to the hilt, Robbie Savage made a very big deal out of Adebayor being a Hughes signing. but looking at the speed with which the deal was completed, and the fairly extensive accounts of what happened, I can't see anything that would lead me to believe Hughes faced any serious opposition from anyone at city.

and with regard to the bigger picture, Mancini is Khaldoun's appointment. They are friends, and the times said that Khaldoun would carry the can if it didn't work out.... a day or two after running (apparently) extremely well informed pieces regarding the thoughts of 'senior figures' predicting Hughes' demise.



6 months looks like a probationary period, not a smokescreen. There were no guarantees that Mancini would fit in, and he was not in a position to demand a long contract. a triple A candidate might be available in the summer. City keep their options open.
 
bizzbo said:
I love a good conspiracy theory.

Billy is right on one score.

ADUG gave Hughes carte blanch. I have a sneaking suspicion that he glossed over the full extent of the injury problems that Lescott, RSC and Bellamy face (plus Toure's medical history, although that was in the public domain). Anyone remember the story that RSC failed a medical in January? The unceremonious dumping of the medical team in the summer, oooh, about a week before RSC joined? That big delay before the third bid for Lescott?

Not to mention a half-fit Kompany (there was at least one other, can't remember who) playing at Arsenal, and injuring himself for the biggest 3 games of the season last year. I vaguely remember the noises coming from the management team that they had been given 'incorrect medical information'.

and on the day Hughes is fired, Lescott's pre-existing condition is suddenly bad enough to keep him out of the team for 2 months? RSC has hardly been fit. Barry is revealed to need a hernia op... in fact all of a sudden a host of injuries are revealed and we are down to the bare bones.

So I find it easy to believe that 'ADUG' have decided they want a bigger say in how 'their' money is spent. Marwood is the best placed person to make these judgements, but that doesn't mean he will pursuing his own targets and the manager likes it or lumps it. Marwood holds the chips right now, but even tho Moses will be a Marwood signing, Viera is clearly a Mancini signing. It's a matter of consensus and compromise. If Mancini does well, then the pendulum will swing his way. still, 'ADUG' will always have the last word, and Marwood and (to a lesser extent) Cook will still have their say. Whatever happens, there is no evidence so far that 'ADUG' are intent on pursuing 'their' own targets. No sign of a Kaka or Robinho.

'Marwood against the Adebayor signing' is interesting, tho. I had it down as Cook wanting a huge african star before the S.A tour.... and Ade just didn't seem like a typical Hughes 'character'. but on the friday before hughes was sacked, in a memorable appearance on R5 live, in defending Hughes' record to the hilt, Robbie Savage made a very big deal out of Adebayor being a Hughes signing. but looking at the speed with which the deal was completed, and the fairly extensive accounts of what happened, I can't see anything that would lead me to believe Hughes faced any serious opposition from anyone at city.

and with regard to the bigger picture, Mancini is Khaldoun's appointment. They are friends, and the times said that Khaldoun would carry the can if it didn't work out.... a day or two after running (apparently) extremely well informed pieces regarding the thoughts of 'senior figures' predicting Hughes' demise.



6 months looks like a probationary period, not a smokescreen. There were no guarantees that Mancini would fit in, and he was not in a position to demand a long contract. a triple A candidate might be available in the summer. City keep their options open.


That's an elegant summary of where we are now bizzbo, where we will be in a few months is an intriguing question.
(Wasn't it de Jong who had a pre-existing knee problem and was forced out for some key matches?)
 
El Boy Wonder said:
rastus said:
Also the great wall of china was built by the scots who built Adrians Wall

Adrians wall?

Jesus
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<----- Adrian's Wall
 
PaleBlue said:
johnny crossan said:
Set up to swap.

We get the Special One, Inter get the Chosen One back.


Nurse!!! Tablets!!!


Shite - Mourinho won't come to City, he wants the Scum job. Why should Mancini go back to a club that sacked him despite his success. Much prefer Roberto to stay than have Mourinho inflicted upon us with his 'effective' (boring) football.

The Scum job must be the worst one in football at the moment. Following Baconface's success but with zero funds to buy in players? Expectation high but possibility of success low? Why would the special one want to make himself look like a fool? I hope Mancini gets a decent crack at this job anyway.
 
SWP's back said:

To be fair, it's also far too early to start stating categorically that Mancini is only here for six months...

I know the rumblings amongst the "sports industry" brigade regarding Mourinho, but also have it on very good authority that the powers that be at City see Mancini as "their man" and fully expect him to deliver not just this season, but in years to come...

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle in the sense that I don't really see any value in sacking Mancini in favour of Mourinho this summer, unless this season goes tits up.

As for the Ansaldi deal. Lets wait and see shall we. One thing which is now indisputable, is that we have a "continental" set up with Marwood acting as Director of Football. Mancini is happy working like this, so if Marwood thinks Ansaldi improves our squad, then Mancini will fall into line...[/
Really? I don't see that as being the case at all. I think Viera was Mancini's signing hence the Inter links and what makes you thi8nk Marwood is in charge?

Fucks sake, this forum is doing my head in - why must everyone read into things that aren't there or look for conspiracies? Mancini is our manager - if he does well, he keeps his job. If he fails, he loses it.
Spot on!
 

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