Is Mancini Going Crazy?

[pauldominic]

Surely if there’s one thing we’ve learned from the past 30 years of supporting City, it’s that CHANGING THE MANAGER IS NOT THE SOLUTION ! It just means we take one step forward, then two back.
So Mancini has to stay for at least another couple of seasons, no matter what.

Though it hurts to say it, I think this is one area where we can look to United & Arsenal for an example of how to run a football club.

PMSL at that.

The only thing I would add is "Regard ex-scum players with suspicion" - Coppell was the worst by a country mile.

 

[pauldominic]

So basically, 'Dave' is like most of us, played at grass roots, got involved a bit in the backroom (at grass roots) watches City. A lot.

No more qualified than the rest of us, yet the looking down the nose at everyone and stating "well my mates in the pub afterwards agreed with me" or "the majority of City fans i know, who go home and away, agree".

Let's be honest, look around you at the games, it's not football coaches and intelects that follow football; it's generally a lot of single pissed up bald headed men (i think Blue Moon Rising used actors to fit the stereotype a little too well!)

In short, most of us don't know what the fuck we're talking about; we'd like to see A,B,C but we don't even think how it affects X,Y,Z.

Which is fine, this is a forum, its about opinions. But when it comes to footballing topics, there really isn't any need for this self flaunting, arrogant attempted swagger, imo.

Aren't there a few sweeping generalisations here?

I'm not bald headed and I'd also like to think I have a half decent intellect.

Also football to me is a simple game. It isn't rocket science.

 

[Danamy]

He's not going crazy, he's feeling the heat under his collar as he knows the pressure is on.

The question is can he deal with it?

 

[Damocles]

As I said originally, my problem with you comes from the righteousness of opinion and the way in which you put it across. Hell, I'm not exactly innocent of this either and it probably doesn't help when we ramp up the sarcasm, but the idea that this is a one sided attack battle is incorrect and dishonest. I also disagree with you on an awful lot of causality but that's less of an annoyance and more of one of those points that are enjoyable to debate with you.

Opinions should be formed on reflection of evidence and you had Mancini down as a bad choice from the word go. Maybe it's my inner scientist, but I find this discouraging and thus any point that you make subsequent to this to be agenda driven, whether it is or isn't.

I do not understand how anybody can look at Mancini's record pre-City, Mancini's evolution of the team and Mancini's current standings and believe that he has done badly or presented any evidence of long term problems, after only 14 months (and in reality, there was a pre-season/World Cup between that, so it wasn't like he spent every day with the players). I know this sounds a bit daft, but you try too hard to be right and often pick out innocuous threads in the cotton and try to draw a greater meaning out of them. If you take a step back and not just focus on the past three games, I think we can both agree that we have kicked on well; tactically, as a club, on the pitch, in our methods, in our 'beatability', in numerous places. I don't think we have really gone backwards in any place really.

Due to this, the only real feeling that people could have against Mancini, is that he isn't progressing QUICK enough, and after 14 months in charge, I'm not sure what progress was expected. This is the same confusing feeling that I had about the league title; I just can't see how people expect us to improve our consistency that quickly.

I'm not going to change my style just like you aren't.

Once again I hold out the olive branch of peace on behalf of my cabal brothers. I feel like Gerry Adams in all honesty, but I'm doing it with a smile ;-)

Well work on the small print later.....

I don't understand what you mean. I'm not going to stop debating your points with you unless you change your points, which you won't and I wouldn't expect you to. This is something that I've been trying to shout from the rooftops since day one; whereas this may have been some personal war with sides and teams and everything to you, to me it wasn't. I don't have a team. I have my opinion on football/the way the game is, my opinion on City and my opinion on the way you put across your points. I dislike the way that you put across your points with a religious like righteousness about them and don't feel that they are very considered nor in line with reality.

I won't call you names any further if that's what you mean. That's unless you start being a condescending twat again, then I'll call you a condescending twat.

I don't understand the big drama here, and feel slightly like I've missed something.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm not going to change my style just like you aren't.

Once again I hold out the olive branch of peace on behalf of my cabal brothers. I feel like Gerry Adams in all honesty, but I'm doing it with a smile ;-)

Well work on the small print later.....

I don't understand what you mean. I'm not going to stop debating your points with you unless you change your points, which you won't and I wouldn't expect you to. This is something that I've been trying to shout from the rooftops since day one; whereas this may have been some personal war with sides and teams and everything to you, to me it wasn't. I don't have a team. I have my opinion on football/the way the game is, my opinion on City and my opinion on the way you put across your points. I dislike the way that you put across your points with a religious like righteousness about them and don't feel that they are very considered nor in line with reality.

I won't call you names any further if that's what you mean. That's unless you start being a condescending twat again, then I'll call you a condescending twat.

I don't understand the big drama here, and feel slightly like I've missed something.

You've missed the fact that calling someone a condescending twat is against the COC...as a mod as well as a condescending twat yourself, you should probably refrain from calling others on it...

Just a thought....;- )

 

[pauldominic]

He's not going crazy, he's feeling the heat under his collar as he knows the pressure is on.

The question is can he deal with it?

Well to be fair, that came with the job specification.

It can't be easy communicating in a foreign language. If it was me I would employ a translator.

I'd respect him more for that. His job is to pick the team for each match.

 

[Danamy]

He's not going crazy, he's feeling the heat under his collar as he knows the pressure is on.

The question is can he deal with it?

Well to be fair, that came with the job specification.

It can't be easy communicating in a foreign language. If it was me I would employ a translator.

I'd respect him more for that. His job is to pick the team for each match.

Why do you think he got Platt in?

 

[pauldominic]

Well to be fair, that came with the job specification.

It can't be easy communicating in a foreign language. If it was me I would employ a translator.

I'd respect him more for that. His job is to pick the team for each match.

Why do you think he got Platt in?

Well honesty is the best policy?

Platt speaks fluent Italian?

If that was the case then I'd get him to talk after the match.

I've supported City for 40 years, but its never been an obsession and I didn't know.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I'm not going to change my style just like you aren't.

Once again I hold out the olive branch of peace on behalf of my cabal brothers. I feel like Gerry Adams in all honesty, but I'm doing it with a smile ;-)

Well work on the small print later.....

I don't understand what you mean. I'm not going to stop debating your points with you unless you change your points, which you won't and I wouldn't expect you to. This is something that I've been trying to shout from the rooftops since day one; whereas this may have been some personal war with sides and teams and everything to you, to me it wasn't. I don't have a team. I have my opinion on football/the way the game is, my opinion on City and my opinion on the way you put across your points. I dislike the way that you put across your points with a religious like righteousness about them and don't feel that they are very considered nor in line with reality.

I won't call you names any further if that's what you mean. That's unless you start being a condescending twat again, then I'll call you a condescending twat.

I don't understand the big drama here, and feel slightly like I've missed something.

You might want to grow a sense of humour too, Jesus .

Im wasted on here ;-)

 

[BosnianDiamond]

What a bunch of crybabies on this forum? Three years ago you were shit and now you want the world. It takes more than 14 months to build a system and get to the promise land. That said, it is imperative that City make it to the CL this year and Mancini will figure it out. I'm glad he said what he said about Dzeko to fire him up and make him be more agressive. I think Dzeko is playing too cautiously at times making sure we retain posession rather than taking on defenders and willing himself to goals.

The future is bright, but you have to support your managers and players.