BimboBob
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Oh yes.
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Is obesity a disease?...
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Oh yes.
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BimboBob
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As ugly as you are bald.
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To paraphrase Churchill..."I can grow it back, probably overnight, but in the morning you will still be ugly."
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A disease? No
Being addicted to sugar is a real addiction though.
Having no idea how to live a healthy life is pure stupidity.
And the laziness and no motivation/will power could be related to mental problems.
Being addicted to sugar is a real addiction though.
Having no idea how to live a healthy life is pure stupidity.
And the laziness and no motivation/will power could be related to mental problems.
Bill Walker
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In terms of 'could it be an underlying mental issue' then maybe.
Anxiety and depression and lack of a sense of well being can lead a person to become addicted to food, alcohol or drugs. So in that respect it could be a form of disease.
Anxiety and depression and lack of a sense of well being can lead a person to become addicted to food, alcohol or drugs. So in that respect it could be a form of disease.
No just fucking greedy
I admire your empathy.
TCIB
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This would focus on the term "developmental" as that term is qualified under "disease". A developmental influence resulting in negative manifestations can be construed as a disease. so technically under current definitions yes it is a disease or can be!
I would suggest if an obese person had a traumatic childhood with behaviour pointing clearly to that trauma as the cause for "comfort eating" they could be clinically diagnosed as having a disease. Lets say they are reminded directly of an instance of their upbringing and the reaction is to get a blanket and sit on the couch, turn the tv on load and eat. I think that could be held up as pretty conclusive evidence of the direct link between the trauma and eating.
I would suggest if an obese person had a traumatic childhood with behaviour pointing clearly to that trauma as the cause for "comfort eating" they could be clinically diagnosed as having a disease. Lets say they are reminded directly of an instance of their upbringing and the reaction is to get a blanket and sit on the couch, turn the tv on load and eat. I think that could be held up as pretty conclusive evidence of the direct link between the trauma and eating.
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It's no more a disease than being a smoker is a disease. It can lead to a lot of diseases though.
It's a bit rich to blame individuals entirely though. Yeah obviously if they really put in a lot of effort, they could probably lose weight and get fit, but we've created a world where it takes more effort to be healthy than unhealthy. Especially in North America. My sister lives in Canada and you basically can't get anywhere useful without a car. Every shop is in a massive retail park so you can park right outside. Everyone goes to work and spends most of the day sat on their arse. And then they go home and eat processed food where even the low fat options are laced with sugar. I mean sugar in kids' milk. When did that happen? And obviously the solution is to eat fresh food, but people opting for convenience is mainly a result of no longer having one member of the family staying home to prepare fresh meals, so it does take more effort and planning to shop for and prepare a fresh meal every day after an 8 hour shift. So yeah, there's a bit of personal responsibility involved of course, but it's also massively down to urban planning and the food industry that place personal convenience above everything else. It's not a secret why countries where it's easy to cycle, everyone cycles to work and they don't get as fat. Whereas if you want to cycle to work in the UK, there are more immediate risks that heart disease.
As for a mental illness, well I'm sure there are a minority of people who have underlying issues, but the explosion in obesity, and on a wider scale people generally being a bit fat is not caused by mental illness. If that was true, then we'd be saying that mental health issues have massively increased over the past few decades, and coincidentally, it just happens to have occurred in the countries that eat the most processed shit and get the least exercise. But don't worry everyone, we'll have a free trade deal with America soon, so we can look forward to it getting much worse. Look at what happened to the Pacific island populations when they started importing huge amounts of processed food. Up to 50% of adults obese. 30-40% diabetic.
It's a bit rich to blame individuals entirely though. Yeah obviously if they really put in a lot of effort, they could probably lose weight and get fit, but we've created a world where it takes more effort to be healthy than unhealthy. Especially in North America. My sister lives in Canada and you basically can't get anywhere useful without a car. Every shop is in a massive retail park so you can park right outside. Everyone goes to work and spends most of the day sat on their arse. And then they go home and eat processed food where even the low fat options are laced with sugar. I mean sugar in kids' milk. When did that happen? And obviously the solution is to eat fresh food, but people opting for convenience is mainly a result of no longer having one member of the family staying home to prepare fresh meals, so it does take more effort and planning to shop for and prepare a fresh meal every day after an 8 hour shift. So yeah, there's a bit of personal responsibility involved of course, but it's also massively down to urban planning and the food industry that place personal convenience above everything else. It's not a secret why countries where it's easy to cycle, everyone cycles to work and they don't get as fat. Whereas if you want to cycle to work in the UK, there are more immediate risks that heart disease.
As for a mental illness, well I'm sure there are a minority of people who have underlying issues, but the explosion in obesity, and on a wider scale people generally being a bit fat is not caused by mental illness. If that was true, then we'd be saying that mental health issues have massively increased over the past few decades, and coincidentally, it just happens to have occurred in the countries that eat the most processed shit and get the least exercise. But don't worry everyone, we'll have a free trade deal with America soon, so we can look forward to it getting much worse. Look at what happened to the Pacific island populations when they started importing huge amounts of processed food. Up to 50% of adults obese. 30-40% diabetic.