IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive

[DelToro]

No because as PB wrote above, there is no such thing as "the Muslim community ".

There's nearly 2 billion Muslims. Grouping them together is as ridiculous as saying Hitler was part of the white community or Bin Laden was part of the male community. You don't have to take responsibility for their acts nor apologise for their actions and suggesting Muslims are associated with IS due to sharing a several billion strong social group with them is equally stupid

That quite frankly is bollocks there is no global Community but at a national and regional level of course there is a Muslim Community

muddying the waters with semantics

You do seem to have this warped view of the Muslim religion, which seems to be fed by the Daily Mail & Express. A mosque, like a synagogue but unlike a mainstream church, is a self-governing entity, which may or may not belong to a local, regional or national body. There are certainly Muslim community organisations, of which the Muslim Council of Britain is the best known. They have regularly condemned atrocities like the 7/7 bombings, killing of Lee Rigby and the latest one. I don't doubt that many individual Muslims feel the same way whereas a minority might have a more sympathetic view. But the MCB (or any other such body) have no legal authority and can't force people to think in a certain way, any more than any other representative group can force its members to.

That's a good response PB but I am afraid you're sowing seed on a stony ground here.

 

[stonerblue]

No because as PB wrote above, there is no such thing as "the Muslim community ".

There's nearly 2 billion Muslims. Grouping them together is as ridiculous as saying Hitler was part of the white community or Bin Laden was part of the male community. You don't have to take responsibility for their acts nor apologise for their actions and suggesting Muslims are associated with IS due to sharing a several billion strong social group with them is equally stupid

That quite frankly is bollocks there is no global Community but at a national and regional level of course there is a Muslim Community

muddying the waters with semantics

You do seem to have this warped view of the Muslim religion, which seems to be fed by the Daily Mail & Express. A mosque, like a synagogue but unlike a mainstream church, is a self-governing entity, which may or may not belong to a local, regional or national body. There are certainly Muslim community organisations, of which the Muslim Council of Britain is the best known. They have regularly condemned atrocities like the 7/7 bombings, killing of Lee Rigby and the latest one. I don't doubt that many individual Muslims feel the same way whereas a minority might have a more sympathetic view. But the MCB (or any other such body) have no legal authority and can't force people to think in a certain way, any more than any other representative group can force its members to.

I posted him the MCB statements, statements from other prominent Muslims and a video, all stating that ISIS and terrorism are bad. He ignored all of it and then moved the goalposts by stating some tosh about actions speaking louder than words.
I doubt he'd be happy even if this mythical community formed an armed brigade and went to take on ISIS.

 

[foxy]

Should just napalm ISIS strongholds, see how they handle being burnt alive, chuck in some White Phosphorus rounds as well.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Should just napalm ISIS strongholds, see how they handle being burnt alive, chuck in some White Phosphorus rounds as well.

My dad told me how they were issued with phosphorus grenades and wooden dum dum bullets during battles in the Ardennes forest despite their being banned by the Geneva convention. He never used one, but remembers the screaming when a corporal lobbed one at a German patrol.
Horrific things that burn despite any medical attention at the time.

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive- Their take on wome

The fucking deluded shitehawks !!!!

IS Reaches Out To Women With Inequality Message

e-mail

Women should "remain hidden and veiled", only leaving their homes in exceptional circumstances, according to an Islamic State manifesto intended as a recruitment tool.

The document includes a curriculum for teaching young girls how to be homemakers and mothers who are "sedentary, still and stable" - and condemns the notion of gender equality.

It also criticises the West's obsession with studying "the brain cells of crows, grains of sand and fish arteries", and suggests such educational pursuits are a distraction from worshipping God, which is "the only reason for their existence".

Circulated widely on jihadist forums, the text was apparently released in an attempt to recruit women living in Saudi Arabia.

"Woman was created to populate the Earth just as man was," one passage reads.

"But, as God wanted it to be, she was made from Adam and for Adam. Beyond this, her creator ruled there was no responsibility greater for her than that of being a wife to her husband."

The fashion industry and beauty salons are deemed as the work of Satan.

"He wishes to bring her from her Paradise of covering and decency, and encourages her to spend huge amounts of money to change God's creation and demand that surgeons change her nose, ear, chin and nails," the document states.

"This is the 'real fashion of women' - things hanging from ears, hair shaved in some places and not in others."

A plan for "the ideal education of our girls" is also included, which takes place when they are between seven and 15 years old. Religious studies, knitting, cooking and Sharia law feature prominently in the curriculum.

"It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine," the text adds. "Most pure girls will be married by 16 or 17, while they are still young and active."

In another section, IS authors state: "Women gain nothing from the idea of their equality with men apart from thorns.

"Under 'equality' they have to work and rest on the same days as men, even though they have 'monthly complications' and pregnancies - in spite of the nature of her life and responsibilities to their husband, sons and religion."

The Quilliam Foundation, which translated the document from Arabic, has labelled it as "fundamentally misogynist".

The think-tank added: "This (treatise) enables us to get into the mindset of the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of women who willingly join its ranks.

"Its objective is clear. This is a piece of propaganda aimed at busting myths and recruiting supporters."

According to the group, the manifesto was not translated into English by IS because it would have been "ineffective - perhaps even counterintuitive - in achieving its propagandistic aims with a Western audience".

 

[Damocles]

That is one of the most obvious propaganda pieces Ive seen so far outside of the whole "All IS fighters are gay" thing.

Salafist Muslims generally believe some absolute shite but some of those statements are way out there even for them. This smells funny to me. "A document circulated on the internet"? Hmmm...

 

[SWP's back]

^^^
What a bunch of cunts though it is far from only the extremist terrorists that would subscribe to the above in the Middle East.

 

[Anonymous]

Should just napalm ISIS strongholds, see how they handle being burnt alive, chuck in some White Phosphorus rounds as well.

Excellent choice of colour.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive- Their take on wome

The fucking deluded shitehawks !!!!

IS Reaches Out To Women With Inequality Message

e-mail

Women should "remain hidden and veiled", only leaving their homes in exceptional circumstances, according to an Islamic State manifesto intended as a recruitment tool.

The document includes a curriculum for teaching young girls how to be homemakers and mothers who are "sedentary, still and stable" - and condemns the notion of gender equality.

It also criticises the West's obsession with studying "the brain cells of crows, grains of sand and fish arteries", and suggests such educational pursuits are a distraction from worshipping God, which is "the only reason for their existence".

Circulated widely on jihadist forums, the text was apparently released in an attempt to recruit women living in Saudi Arabia.

"Woman was created to populate the Earth just as man was," one passage reads.

"But, as God wanted it to be, she was made from Adam and for Adam. Beyond this, her creator ruled there was no responsibility greater for her than that of being a wife to her husband."

The fashion industry and beauty salons are deemed as the work of Satan.

"He wishes to bring her from her Paradise of covering and decency, and encourages her to spend huge amounts of money to change God's creation and demand that surgeons change her nose, ear, chin and nails," the document states.

"This is the 'real fashion of women' - things hanging from ears, hair shaved in some places and not in others."

A plan for "the ideal education of our girls" is also included, which takes place when they are between seven and 15 years old. Religious studies, knitting, cooking and Sharia law feature prominently in the curriculum.

"It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine," the text adds. "Most pure girls will be married by 16 or 17, while they are still young and active."

In another section, IS authors state: "Women gain nothing from the idea of their equality with men apart from thorns.

"Under 'equality' they have to work and rest on the same days as men, even though they have 'monthly complications' and pregnancies - in spite of the nature of her life and responsibilities to their husband, sons and religion."

The Quilliam Foundation, which translated the document from Arabic, has labelled it as "fundamentally misogynist".

The think-tank added: "This (treatise) enables us to get into the mindset of the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of women who willingly join its ranks.

"Its objective is clear. This is a piece of propaganda aimed at busting myths and recruiting supporters."

According to the group, the manifesto was not translated into English by IS because it would have been "ineffective - perhaps even counterintuitive - in achieving its propagandistic aims with a Western audience".

Is this on email? Or do you have a link?

 

[stonerblue]

Re: IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive- Their take on wome

The fucking deluded shitehawks !!!!

IS Reaches Out To Women With Inequality Message

e-mail

Women should "remain hidden and veiled", only leaving their homes in exceptional circumstances, according to an Islamic State manifesto intended as a recruitment tool.

The document includes a curriculum for teaching young girls how to be homemakers and mothers who are "sedentary, still and stable" - and condemns the notion of gender equality.

It also criticises the West's obsession with studying "the brain cells of crows, grains of sand and fish arteries", and suggests such educational pursuits are a distraction from worshipping God, which is "the only reason for their existence".

Circulated widely on jihadist forums, the text was apparently released in an attempt to recruit women living in Saudi Arabia.

"Woman was created to populate the Earth just as man was," one passage reads.

"But, as God wanted it to be, she was made from Adam and for Adam. Beyond this, her creator ruled there was no responsibility greater for her than that of being a wife to her husband."

The fashion industry and beauty salons are deemed as the work of Satan.

"He wishes to bring her from her Paradise of covering and decency, and encourages her to spend huge amounts of money to change God's creation and demand that surgeons change her nose, ear, chin and nails," the document states.

"This is the 'real fashion of women' - things hanging from ears, hair shaved in some places and not in others."

A plan for "the ideal education of our girls" is also included, which takes place when they are between seven and 15 years old. Religious studies, knitting, cooking and Sharia law feature prominently in the curriculum.

"It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine," the text adds. "Most pure girls will be married by 16 or 17, while they are still young and active."

In another section, IS authors state: "Women gain nothing from the idea of their equality with men apart from thorns.

"Under 'equality' they have to work and rest on the same days as men, even though they have 'monthly complications' and pregnancies - in spite of the nature of her life and responsibilities to their husband, sons and religion."

The Quilliam Foundation, which translated the document from Arabic, has labelled it as "fundamentally misogynist".

The think-tank added: "This (treatise) enables us to get into the mindset of the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of women who willingly join its ranks.

"Its objective is clear. This is a piece of propaganda aimed at busting myths and recruiting supporters."

According to the group, the manifesto was not translated into English by IS because it would have been "ineffective - perhaps even counterintuitive - in achieving its propagandistic aims with a Western audience".

The Quilliam foundation. Fancy words to disguise bigotry. What a load of utter shite. And next time you post somebody elses bollox don't try and hide your source. Fancy fucking drivel for the pseudo democrats.