IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive

[abu13]

The scary thing is we have gullible idiots in our own country who support this psychotic death cult.

Some fucker will do it over here.

This is a real issue, i read somewhere about the number of terrorism plots foiled each year and it was a scary number. The guy being interviewed said that the problem is that for all the efforts made the terrorists only need to get lucky once.

 

[oakiecokie]

3 February 2015, 22:36
Jordan Will Have Revenge For Murdered Pilot


It's slickly produced with iconography and graphics fitting for a thriller or spy movie.

It even uses 'flashbacks' as the condemned man looks into the sky and contemplates just how justified his punishment is going to be compared to the 'crimes' he has committed.

The latest murder video from the death cult that calls itself Islamic State is revealing not for the visible 'power' of the movement but for its weakness.

Indeed the whole saga of the Japanese hostages and murder of flight lieutenant Mu'ath Al Kassasbeh begins to reveal a picture of an organisation that is losing its grip.

It has already abandoned Kobani after losing 1,200 men. It has been driven from some key towns and villages in the east of Iraq, and now it would appear to be incoherent in its kidnap policy.

Last year it made about £30m ($45m) from negotiating the release of foreigners.

It murdered Britons and Americans on camera because the shocking snuff movies of their deaths generated a level of publicity that outweighed the profits it might have raised from desperate families.

Throughout the talks aimed at swapping Sajida al Rishawi, a failed suicide bomber on death row in Amman, IS was unable to provide proof that Flt Lt Kassasbeh was alive.

Activists in Raqqa said on 8 January that they believed he had been killed.

During the same period, when negotiating over a $200m ransom for the two Japanese citizens, the usual videos were replaced with print-outs of photos of the murder of Haruna Yukawa who was killed first.

His friend Kenji Goto was beheaded on video - but not in the open location that previous crimes had been committed.

One could over-interpret such clues, it is true. But so-called IS appears to be having to keep its hostages on the move, rush out its demands, and has resorted to a form of murder that could galvanise support against them in the very communities they most need it.

The aim of the latest killing is to force a wedge between King Abdullah II of Jordan and the Bedouin tribes who traditionally support him.

There have been small elements within them, especially in the south, that have drifted towards the ideology of Salafism, the Islamo-fascist creed of al Qaeda and IS.

Some Jordanians are dismayed at their country's involvement in fighting IS in Syria and Iraq.

The hostage killers want these people to blame their kind for his death.

But this is a gamble. Bedouin tribes have already been fighting IS in Syria. And now the large Kasasbeh clans are locked in a blood feud.

As Jordan's army has already sworn - it will have revenge.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The scary thing is we have gullible idiots in our own country who support this psychotic death cult.

Lock them in a mosque and set fire to it.

 

[johnny on the spot]

And therein lies the key. Abdullah needs the tribespeople onside and then IS will be finished there. IS numbers in Jordanian territory are estimated to be about 30k, paltry and desperate against sovereign armed forces and combined regional militia.

 

[bluemiester]

Days like this really make me question what is happening in the world, i have a young Grand daughter and wonder what sort of world she is going to have to grow up in. What is it about human nature that causes people to act like this? You wouldn't think that it would be too much to ask to be able to live without fear anywhere in the world.

The sad thing for me is that this all stems from religion, my gods better than your god !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can understand people having faith but to carry out acts like this in the name of religion is just sickening.

It's not just a case of my god is better than yours. It's the religions themselves. IS throw gay people of buildings because of their religion, not anyone else's.

The problem is faith itself. I think as a society we focus way too much on so called extremism, to the point it makes regular religious acts such as praying etc seem normal, when in reality they are seriously extreme. We have otherwise perfectly rational people talking to invisible sky monsters and worshiping a bronze age charlatan. If religion can make seemingly rational and often well educated people do that, it's not hard to see how in less advanced cultures religion can lead to such barbarism. In my opinion society is far too accepting of religious rights as essentially they lesson the responsibility of the individual.

If any of us came home to discover a loved one had started worshiping some deity no one had ever heard of, that had some seriously anti social traits, we'd freak out. It would be exactly the same thing that Jews, Christians and Muslims, do, but the difference is, because there are so many of them it's considered "normal". Why is Scientology considered nuts, yet it's okay to be a Christian?

I don't get why we are so tolerant towards religion. Secular society has fought so hard for progressive social and political change and it's all going to be for nothing due to our religious tolerance.

 

[Deleted member 58619]

I wish I was a sniper shooting these rodents off the face of this earth, SCUM

 

[Tueartsoverhead kick]

I've just watched news night and they were speaking to a Jordanian military commander who said that in the next 24hrs they will execute 4 IS/Al-Qaeda
Terrorists that they have in jail

 

[BlueHammer85]

Where are ISIS primarily based ? And if we know why don't country's club together and bomb the hell out of them ?

How many people do they have in there group ?

how much money do they have ? And how are transactions done ?

Are they similar in a sence to Al Quieda where it's more of a globalised ideology or are these just one mammoth group in the Middle East with a huge following ?

What do they actually want the world to be ?

Do they have any genuine reasons to be aggrieved ? (Nothing justifys these horrific killings by the way )

... I have a vague idea about ISIS but would be interested to have a clear picture of these b*stards, sorry if some of the questions are a bit thick.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

You could remove all religion from the world and the same people would still argue, fight and even kill saying their "virtue" is superior.

You're probably right mate. There will always be arguments, and there should always be probably. But "God" is faith and virtue is linked to reasoning and logic. Or is it? I think it is. It is definitely a better way of progressing nevertheless.

I understand your point but I guess what I'm saying is that virtues by means of reason and logic can still be hijacked by evil people and followed by those that choose not to follow reason and logic or are just simply too weak-minded or even evil themselves.

Pessimist! Nah you're probably right again. Sophists, Skepticists, Stoics or whatmever. Always be different thought processes. But "Thought" is key, the finalism of death is there. To Debate, philosophize, argue, etc. but we'd all appreciate death as final. We could grow from there.

Bad wording here but I can't do better.

 

[ultimateharold]

Isis are bad knobs.