Isco

Re: Isco (Part 8 (weekend saga part 3))

Plain Speaking said:
Matty said:
richards30 said:
I think it is now definitely time to put Madrid in their place. forget the peace pact, that only benefitted them because for the first time they aren't able just to control players and the market the corrupt way they have for years gone by! we get isco then its a huge huge statement!
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We will have a valuation we have put on Isco, lets say it's £30m for arguments sake. We'll offer that much in one way or another, and we'll be willing to change the method by which Malaga get their £30m, installments, a bigger upfront payment, add-ons for achievements etc. However, if Real value him at £40m for example, and they are willing to pay that, then we won't be simply outbidding them to get the player. We'll move on and look at alternatives. This isn't Fantasy Football, or Football Manager, we're talking about extremely shrewd business men here. The days where we overpaid in terms of transfer fees and wages are gone, we don't need to do that now to attract the right calibre of player. We've established a reputation now as a side who can win major trophies, one which will be chanllenging annually for such trophies, and one which will be qualifying for Europe's top competitions. We can pay the right price, and hand out the right wages, on the right players. We won't get all our targets, but then no-one does, we need to stick to our guns and only pay what we believe is the right value.
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Our reputation is not as high as it was last summer. IMO as a club we thought we had "made it" after winning the PL. Last summer we failed to improve our squad and paid the price.
Are we too inflexible with our decision making in player recruitment? Frequently when there is competition in a transfer, we seem to lose out.
Did the market value of Isco go up after his MoTM performances in the U21's? RM seemed to re-value Isco, did we?
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I'm in complete agreement.
You can call it shrewd but if we would have bid an extra 5m on van persie last year we would have earned far more from another league win and arguably the fa cup too.
Messing around costs us so much last year.

We need to stop messing around trying to be a smart arse and sign some of these key players.
 
Re: Isco (Part 8 (weekend saga part 3))

Plain Speaking said:
Matty said:
richards30 said:
I think it is now definitely time to put Madrid in their place. forget the peace pact, that only benefitted them because for the first time they aren't able just to control players and the market the corrupt way they have for years gone by! we get isco then its a huge huge statement!
Click to expand...
We will have a valuation we have put on Isco, lets say it's £30m for arguments sake. We'll offer that much in one way or another, and we'll be willing to change the method by which Malaga get their £30m, installments, a bigger upfront payment, add-ons for achievements etc. However, if Real value him at £40m for example, and they are willing to pay that, then we won't be simply outbidding them to get the player. We'll move on and look at alternatives. This isn't Fantasy Football, or Football Manager, we're talking about extremely shrewd business men here. The days where we overpaid in terms of transfer fees and wages are gone, we don't need to do that now to attract the right calibre of player. We've established a reputation now as a side who can win major trophies, one which will be chanllenging annually for such trophies, and one which will be qualifying for Europe's top competitions. We can pay the right price, and hand out the right wages, on the right players. We won't get all our targets, but then no-one does, we need to stick to our guns and only pay what we believe is the right value.
Click to expand...
Our reputation is not as high as it was last summer. IMO as a club we thought we had "made it" after winning the PL. Last summer we failed to improve our squad and paid the price.
Are we too inflexible with our decision making in player recruitment? Frequently when there is competition in a transfer, we seem to lose out.
Did the market value of Isco go up after his MoTM performances in the U21's? RM seemed to re-value Isco, did we?
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very good comment pre u21.. we had him... should have been pre contract etc.. or post dated contract.. whatever.. we had him and missed putting him in a keep net
 
Re: Isco (Part 8 (weekend saga part 3))

stanHayes said:
Plain Speaking said:
Matty said:
We will have a valuation we have put on Isco, lets say it's £30m for arguments sake. We'll offer that much in one way or another, and we'll be willing to change the method by which Malaga get their £30m, installments, a bigger upfront payment, add-ons for achievements etc. However, if Real value him at £40m for example, and they are willing to pay that, then we won't be simply outbidding them to get the player. We'll move on and look at alternatives. This isn't Fantasy Football, or Football Manager, we're talking about extremely shrewd business men here. The days where we overpaid in terms of transfer fees and wages are gone, we don't need to do that now to attract the right calibre of player. We've established a reputation now as a side who can win major trophies, one which will be chanllenging annually for such trophies, and one which will be qualifying for Europe's top competitions. We can pay the right price, and hand out the right wages, on the right players. We won't get all our targets, but then no-one does, we need to stick to our guns and only pay what we believe is the right value.
Click to expand...
Our reputation is not as high as it was last summer. IMO as a club we thought we had "made it" after winning the PL. Last summer we failed to improve our squad and paid the price.
Are we too inflexible with our decision making in player recruitment? Frequently when there is competition in a transfer, we seem to lose out.
Did the market value of Isco go up after his MoTM performances in the U21's? RM seemed to re-value Isco, did we?
Click to expand...


very good comment pre u21.. we had him... should have been pre contract etc.. or post dated contract.. whatever.. we had him and missed putting him in a keep net
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Couldn't be any more wrong if you tried
 
Re: Isco (Part 8 (weekend saga part 3))

Neville Kneville said:
Plain Speaking said:
Matty said:
We will have a valuation we have put on Isco, lets say it's £30m for arguments sake. We'll offer that much in one way or another, and we'll be willing to change the method by which Malaga get their £30m, installments, a bigger upfront payment, add-ons for achievements etc. However, if Real value him at £40m for example, and they are willing to pay that, then we won't be simply outbidding them to get the player. We'll move on and look at alternatives. This isn't Fantasy Football, or Football Manager, we're talking about extremely shrewd business men here. The days where we overpaid in terms of transfer fees and wages are gone, we don't need to do that now to attract the right calibre of player. We've established a reputation now as a side who can win major trophies, one which will be chanllenging annually for such trophies, and one which will be qualifying for Europe's top competitions. We can pay the right price, and hand out the right wages, on the right players. We won't get all our targets, but then no-one does, we need to stick to our guns and only pay what we believe is the right value.
Click to expand...
Our reputation is not as high as it was last summer. IMO as a club we thought we had "made it" after winning the PL. Last summer we failed to improve our squad and paid the price.
Are we too inflexible with our decision making in player recruitment? Frequently when there is competition in a transfer, we seem to lose out.
Did the market value of Isco go up after his MoTM performances in the U21's? RM seemed to re-value Isco, did we?
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Neither of you know what City are willing to pay.

There is no reason to assume it is less than Madrid are willing to pay.
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It appears we are consistently losing out on our targets, when there is competition from other clubs.
Hopefully we can get him, but getting less optimistic.
 
Re: Isco (Part 8 (weekend saga part 3))

Chevelle said:
When was the last time RM lost out in a player transfer to another club?
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Wasn't there reported interest in Kolarov too?

Found this

The Serbian international has reportedly agreed to terms with Los Blancos, who must now dedicate themselves to negotiating with Lazio for the left-back...

As reported by Marca, Real Madrid have agreed terms with Lazio left-back Aleksandar Kolarov on a deal for a summer switch, as the Serbian international has snubbed both Manchester City and Inter in agreeing to sign for Los Blancos.

According to reports, Kolarov has already spoken to new Madrid coach Jose Mourinho, who assured Kolarov of his place in the Special One's ambitious project.

They must now concentrate on negotiating with Lazio to agree on the fee; Madrid have reportedly launched a €20 million bid today for the player's services. Many expect Kolarov's transfer to go through in the short amount of time preceding the World Cup and are also reporting that the Spanish giants will attempt to secure winger Angel Di Maria's signature before Argentina's first match.

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