Isco

Neville Kneville said:
The fact that it hardly ever happened in two seasons is a black mark against the pair of them & a huge indictment of Mancini's lack of player management skills.

IMO what you're talking about takes time and consistency. One of the problems of our own creating over the last few years is we've created an environment of "one shit game and your out", where at some point Tevez, Dzeko, and Balo all were being brought in and out of the team. Yes it's down to the players to work on working together, but it's also down to the management to make sure that they're being given the right encouragement to work as a team.

More than anything I just feel strongly that the three we have are all world class and we should give them a year under Pellegrini before judging them.
 
Neville Kneville said:
taconinja said:
BillyShears said:
Sorry Marvin, but I'm going to have to go through your post line by line to be clear. How do you believe forwards compliment each other? The obvious way is having different characteristics which together provide all the attributes you need in a forward line. Dzeko and Kun clearly do that as one is fast and agile, the other is powerful and direct.
For the most part I agree with you, but I have to ask which one of these two is fast and agile and which one is powerful and direct? I can fit either set of descriptors to Aguero, but none of them apply to Dzeko.

When have Dzeko & Aguero ever complimented each other as players, & I mean EVER ?

Strikers who 'complimnent' each other are those who link up, play one twos, flick ons, set each other up for goals. Even when we were at our best, Aguero & Dzeko weren't doing that, they got their goals from other players or individually, hardly ever by playing together.

They are one of the most 'uncomplimentery' strike pairings I have ever seen. Even when one is unmarked 3 yards in front of an open net, the other doesn't pass to him.

The goal that Rodwell scored v Norwich, when the ball was played in to Dzeko's feet & he just laid it off into Rodwell's path, is the kind of thing which should have been happening every week with Dzeko & Aguero.

The fact that it hardly ever happened in two seasons is a black mark against the pair of them & a huge indictment of Mancini's lack of player management skills.

the best partnership we had when we won the title was Dzeko and Aguero yet everyone raved about tevez and kun cos they had a great game vs norwich, the only reason it didn't get better was bobby's fuckin stupid idea that mario was as good as messi when he just wasn't good enough week in week out for us and i was glad he left dzeko kun and guidetti is all we need.
dillbi95 said:
BringBackSwales said:
g180aj said:
I disagree i think the only midfielder who has looked like scoring every game he has played is rodwel, just a shame he didn't play that much. We need thiago and isco as both would add at least 20 goals a season each and take the weight off silva's shoulders and give him more room to play thus creating more chances for the strikers.


at least 20 goals a season from each of Isco and Thiago is surely a joke?
He must mean altogether as theres not chance that they will score 20 each!
isco scored 14 goals last season in a bang average team where santa cruz was the leading goalscorer. and in an advanced central role tihago is good enough to score more than 20 goalseasily
 
dillbi95 said:
BringBackSwales said:
g180aj said:
I disagree i think the only midfielder who has looked like scoring every game he has played is rodwel, just a shame he didn't play that much. We need thiago and isco as both would add at least 20 goals a season each and take the weight off silva's shoulders and give him more room to play thus creating more chances for the strikers.


at least 20 goals a season from each of Isco and Thiago is surely a joke?
He must mean altogether as theres not chance that they will score 20 each!


nope he definitely says each
 
g180aj said:
Neville Kneville said:
taconinja said:
For the most part I agree with you, but I have to ask which one of these two is fast and agile and which one is powerful and direct? I can fit either set of descriptors to Aguero, but none of them apply to Dzeko.

When have Dzeko & Aguero ever complimented each other as players, & I mean EVER ?

Strikers who 'complimnent' each other are those who link up, play one twos, flick ons, set each other up for goals. Even when we were at our best, Aguero & Dzeko weren't doing that, they got their goals from other players or individually, hardly ever by playing together.

They are one of the most 'uncomplimentery' strike pairings I have ever seen. Even when one is unmarked 3 yards in front of an open net, the other doesn't pass to him.

The goal that Rodwell scored v Norwich, when the ball was played in to Dzeko's feet & he just laid it off into Rodwell's path, is the kind of thing which should have been happening every week with Dzeko & Aguero.

The fact that it hardly ever happened in two seasons is a black mark against the pair of them & a huge indictment of Mancini's lack of player management skills.

the best partnership we had when we won the title was Dzeko and Aguero yet everyone raved about tevez and kun cos they had a great game vs norwich, the only reason it didn't get better was bobby's fuckin stupid idea that mario was as good as messi when he just wasn't good enough week in week out for us and i was glad he left dzeko kun and guidetti is all we need.
dillbi95 said:
BringBackSwales said:
at least 20 goals a season from each of Isco and Thiago is surely a joke?
He must mean altogether as theres not chance that they will score 20 each!
isco scored 14 goals last season in a bang average team where santa cruz was the leading goalscorer. and in an advanced central role tihago is good enough to score more than 20 goalseasily

when mario was played week-in-week out he was tearing the league apart starting with the winner at home vs everton off the bench.

he hardly ever played week-in-week out for us, and he was almost never played in his best role, as a solitary striker. for as much as mancini seemed to love him, he used him criminally poor

-- Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:43 am --

starting at everton home:

24 Sep, 12:45 Manchester City 2 - 0 Everton Premier League (Mario scores winner)
27 Sep, 19:45 Bayern Munich 2 - 0 Manchester City Champions League
October (did not play)
1 Oct, 15:00 Blackburn Rovers 0 - 4 Manchester City Premier League (Mario scores 2nd)
15 Oct, 15:00 Manchester City 4 - 1 Aston Villa Premier League (Mario scores opener)
18 Oct, 19:45 Manchester City 2 - 1 Villarreal CF Champions League (Mario causes OG to equalize)
23 Oct, 13:30 Manchester United 1 - 6 Manchester City Premier League (we all know this game)
 
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2341489/Isco-close-signing-Manchester-City.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -City.html</a>

Manchester City are close to making Malaga playmaker Isco their third signing of the summer.
Sportsmail sources understand City are confident terms will be agreed with the Spain Under 21 midfielder, who is set to follow Manuel Pellegrini to the Etihad in the coming weeks.
The Chilean coach left Malaga at the end of last season and the 2012 Barclays Premier League champions are hoping to unveil Pellegrini over the weekend.
 
Good lad. Still a dirty stinkin rag twat tho....


David De Gea has told Isco he would love life in Manchester - even if it is at rivals Manchester City.

The Malaga playmaker has been linked with a big-money move to the Etihad, with his former manager Manuel Pellegrini set to be confirmed as Roberto Mancini's successor within days.
And Manchester United goalkeeeper De Gea says Isco would like life in England.
"You never know what will happen, but I wish him well," said De Gea.
"What I want is for him to go where he is needed. Manchester is fine to live in and City, even though they are our opponents, are a great club."



Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130614/isco-urged-make-man-city-switchby-man-united-star-199663?#ixzz2WCTUKHbH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... z2WCTUKHbH</a>
 
If we don't land Isco I'm confident we'll get Thiago, hard for me to pick which one I'd rather have so either way I think we'll end up with a fantastic Spanish playmaker.
 
Cityisland said:
Good lad. Still a dirty stinkin rag twat tho....


David De Gea has told Isco he would love life in Manchester - even if it is at rivals Manchester City.

The Malaga playmaker has been linked with a big-money move to the Etihad, with his former manager Manuel Pellegrini set to be confirmed as Roberto Mancini's successor within days.
And Manchester United goalkeeeper De Gea says Isco would like life in England.
"You never know what will happen, but I wish him well," said De Gea.
"What I want is for him to go where he's is needed. Manchester is fine to live in and City, even though they are our opponents, are a great club."



Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130614/isco-urged-make-man-city-switchby-man-united-star-199663?#ixzz2WCTUKHbH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... z2WCTUKHbH</a>
Great...hopefully they are best mates too .:-)
 
BlueindianNewcity said:
Cityisland said:
Good lad. Still a dirty stinkin rag twat tho....


David De Gea has told Isco he would love life in Manchester - even if it is at rivals Manchester City.

The Malaga playmaker has been linked with a big-money move to the Etihad, with his former manager Manuel Pellegrini set to be confirmed as Roberto Mancini's successor within days.
And Manchester United goalkeeeper De Gea says Isco would like life in England.
"You never know what will happen, but I wish him well," said De Gea.
"What I want is for him to go where he's is needed. Manchester is fine to live in and City, even though they are our opponents, are a great club."



Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130614/isco-urged-make-man-city-switchby-man-united-star-199663?#ixzz2WCTUKHbH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... z2WCTUKHbH</a>
Great...hopefully they are best mates too .:-)
I hope ragcafe doesn't ignore that. I want to see their reactions...
 
Cityisland said:
Good lad. Still a dirty stinkin rag twat tho....


David De Gea has told Isco he would love life in Manchester - even if it is at rivals Manchester City.

The Malaga playmaker has been linked with a big-money move to the Etihad, with his former manager Manuel Pellegrini set to be confirmed as Roberto Mancini's successor within days.
And Manchester United goalkeeeper De Gea says Isco would like life in England.
"You never know what will happen, but I wish him well," said De Gea.
"What I want is for him to go where he is needed. Manchester is fine to live in and City, even though they are our opponents, are a great club."



Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130614/isco-urged-make-man-city-switchby-man-united-star-199663?#ixzz2WCTUKHbH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... z2WCTUKHbH</a>

Such an interview,and opinion,would never have been tolerated under Taggart's reign.

A miniscule crack maybe......
 

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