Islamophobia in the Conservative Party

[aguero93:20]

I honestly think in this country Christianity is seen as a harmless past time for folk with a bit of wishful thinking. Like train spotters they might be a bit odd but what’s the harm. Those smart American preachers who jump on buses are pretty weird though, do you get them in Ireland?

Occasionally. They usually don't stay long.

 

[Rascal]

The difference between this thread and the stuff on the Labour party about anti Semitism is quite telling.

It would make an interesting essay topic. Compare and contrast.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

For those wishing to inform themselves specifically about Salafi women and why they don the niqab over here, Anabel Inge's research and ethnographic study is well worth a look.

Although Boris actually did not wish to prevent Salafi women dressing in the manner of the above woman , his modus operandi in writing that article, in my view, was to pick an easy target (as Salafis of the quietist variety are apolitical) and write about them in a manner that plays well with types who twirl their batons and shake their pom poms in support of characters like Tommy Robinson.

I used to enjoy reading the Salafi feminist's blog on stuff like this. Sadly it's now defunct.

Just as a point of interest, there are Muslim men who occasionally wear women's dress. Dating back to the 14th Century, the bissu are Muslim men in South Sulawesi who wear women's clothing in religious rituals.

There are also Muslim transvestites called 'waria', a combination of the Indonesian word 'juanita' for woman and 'pria' for man. Waria cover their heads but consider themselves to be feminine men rather than women.

Prophet Muhammad was reported as veiling, for example as a sign of respect when he appeared before his father-in-law. And among the Berber Muslim Tuareg tribe, it is the men rather than the women that veil.

Meanwhile, Azerbaijan, Albania, and Uzbekistan all ban religious clothing in universities, and Tajikistan bans the headscarf in public and Islamic schools and universities.

Personally, I like this lot's stage gear:

But again there's never any mention of the Jewish women who wear similar

This is a Frumka .... worn by the women of the Haredi sect in Israel and the Lev Tavor sect in Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_burqa_sect

 

[Ric]

The difference between this thread and the stuff on the Labour party about anti Semitism is quite telling.

It would make an interesting essay topic. Compare and contrast.

Not sure it’s that telling tbh. It’s just a sad indictment of political discourse these days. Many of those outraged by anti-Semitism in the Labour Party seemingly turn a blind eye to Islamophobia in the Conservative Party, and vice-versa. Selective outrage for point-scoring purposes.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Sad to see the very last THIS WEEK last night. (Although could have done without Mick fucking Hucknall)

They summed current politics up last night to a tee. It's at an all time low. Both sides.

 

[Ban-jani]

Depends. Are they giving other religions equal stick?

This is a good point but not all religions are equally bad in the same way at all times. It would be unfair to blame the noncing that goes on in the Catholic Church on Muslims, just as it would be unfair to blame suicide bombing on Jewish people.

The bigotry in the UK and Tory Party against Muslims is just a hatred of them, rather than just the texts. They dislike brown people and have a further disdain for those that follow Islam. This is fundamentally different than just disliking the religion itself.

The Quran is a ridiculous piece of literature and quite laughably bad. But that doesn’t mean we should be doing what Johnson did, and ridiculing the Muslim minority in this country because A) it must make Muslim women, an already vulnerable group, feel humiliated and even more vulnerable and B) that sort of rhetoric energises the far right and far right terror groups. It allows them to be confident that their disgusting views are mainstream.