Israel-Palestine Conflict

[inbetween]

No, no, no. We were told Iran and Hamas are an existential threat to Israel because of ........ words ........ , as justification for what is going on in Gaza. What has changed?

Well they potentially are an existential threat, Iran has a state goal of the destruction of Israel, they want to acquire nuclear weapons for that reason. Currently Iran hasn't got the means to do what it wants to do.

Hamas and Yemeni Houthis similarly have a goal of the destruction of Israel and they haven't got the means to do it either.

It's just untrue that Hamas, Iran etc all just want a cozy peaceful solution and Israel are the bastards. Obviously the Israeli regime doesn't want peace either but that's why they're blowing each other up, Israel is just far better equipped to do that.

Rhetoric is not the difference between the two parties, military capability is the difference.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Well they potentially are an existential threat, Iran has a state goal of the destruction of Israel, they want to acquire nuclear weapons for that reason. Currently Iran hasn't got the means to do what it wants to do.

Hamas and Yemeni Houthis similarly have a goal of the destruction of Israel and they haven't got the means to do it either.

It's just untrue that Hamas, Iran etc all just want a cozy peaceful solution and Israel are the bastards. Obviously the Israeli regime doesn't want peace either but that's why they're blowing each other up, Israel is just far better equipped to do that.

Rhetoric is not the difference between the two parties, military capability is the difference.

So we agree there is currently no existential threat to Israel from anywhere?

 

[lloydie]

Well they potentially are an existential threat, Iran has a state goal of the destruction of Israel, they want to acquire nuclear weapons for that reason. Currently Iran hasn't got the means to do what it wants to do.

Hamas and Yemeni Houthis similarly have a goal of the destruction of Israel and they haven't got the means to do it either.

It's just untrue that Hamas, Iran etc all just want a cozy peaceful solution and Israel are the bastards. Obviously the Israeli regime doesn't want peace either but that's why they're blowing each other up, Israel is just far better equipped to do that.

Rhetoric is not the difference between the two parties, military capability is the difference.

Maybe we should stop equipping them then.

 

[Vic]

Imagine on a flight

How were they shipped to Lebanon? Sea or air? Are there now ways of getting explosives on a plane undetected?

 

[Vic]

Well they potentially are an existential threat, Iran has a state goal of the destruction of Israel, they want to acquire nuclear weapons for that reason. Currently Iran hasn't got the means to do what it wants to do.

Hamas and Yemeni Houthis similarly have a goal of the destruction of Israel and they haven't got the means to do it either.

It's just untrue that Hamas, Iran etc all just want a cozy peaceful solution and Israel are the bastards. Obviously the Israeli regime doesn't want peace either but that's why they're blowing each other up, Israel is just far better equipped to do that.

Rhetoric is not the difference between the two parties, military capability is the difference.

Surely Iran needs nukes for deterrence. That's our argument for having them.